Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 10:23:23 08/26/00
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On August 25, 2000 at 05:54:28, Roger Kyte wrote: >On August 25, 2000 at 04:47:39, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On August 23, 2000 at 21:47:04, Roger Kyte wrote: >> >>>On August 23, 2000 at 02:25:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>It is nice to meet people in person. If you haven't gone to one of these, and >>>>you have a program, I recommend that you go. You'll meet some interesting >>>>people, and learn a lot. >>>> >>>>If things are done over the internet, there is less communication and less >>>>common experience. >>>> >>>>I'm happy to go, I just don't want it always to be me who pays for the 11-hour >>>>plane trip. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>>You complain that it costs money to participate in a prize fund match. >>> >>>Also, you do not release your program as an engine for sale, perhaps as a >>>chessbase engine, this would also cover your expenses and then some. >>> >>>I think you have to take part of the blame for your financial woes and not blame >>>others. >> >>I don't have any financial woes. I just don't want to pay for it and sit on the >>plane forever this year. >> >>bruce > >That is fine, you do not have to participate, but please stop complaining about >the few thousand dollars in expenses you would have to incur. If you ran your >computer chess activities properly this could be written off as a business >expense against revenues. "Few thousand dollars"? If you want to criticize how I run my business or my life, buzz off, or perhaps something stronger. >Do you think WMCC should pay for your plane ticket and nobody else's ?? No European has had to pay for an intercontinental plane ticket in the past five years. Both times it has been outside of Europe, the sponsor has paid for air fare. Why is this? Because the sponsor knows that they can't get a good field if they don't pay. If the tournament is in Europe, they can get most of the programs to show up, because they are already in Europe. > >Sponsors are not that interested in computer chess anymore, as pubic interest >has dropped. > >In this case, similiar to Crafty, this is your hobby no revenues are generated. >Do you honestly believe somebody should give you money to support your hobby ?? > >That is not very American of you -:) OK, before I get too mad I'll try to say it once more. What I'm concerned about is when they find a European sponsor, they don't try very hard to get travel support, because they know that "everyone" is already in Europe, so "nobody" gets travel support. When they find a sponsor outside of Europe, "everyone" is not in Europe, so "everyone" gets travel support. Has any effort been expended to try to get the sponsor to pay travel support? Is any leverage applied? Is it even mentioned? It's significant that there were only two North American programs present in a field of 14. That's how it always is, these days. Since 1995, we haven't seen Kittinger or Tom Kerrigan. We haven't seen Hirsch, Stanback, or Hyatt, in person. Lefler was in Paderborn last time, but he was working in Berlin. Computer chess is becoming a European deal. bruce
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