Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:35:59 08/26/00
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On August 26, 2000 at 13:32:33, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On August 25, 2000 at 17:43:12, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On August 25, 2000 at 05:48:49, Roger Kyte wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2000 at 10:37:09, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>>On August 24, 2000 at 05:47:35, Roger Kyte wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 23, 2000 at 23:18:29, Pete Galati wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 23, 2000 at 21:47:04, Roger Kyte wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 23, 2000 at 02:25:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It is nice to meet people in person. If you haven't gone to one of these, and >>>>>>>>you have a program, I recommend that you go. You'll meet some interesting >>>>>>>>people, and learn a lot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If things are done over the internet, there is less communication and less >>>>>>>>common experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm happy to go, I just don't want it always to be me who pays for the 11-hour >>>>>>>>plane trip. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>bruce >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You complain that it costs money to participate in a prize fund match. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Also, you do not release your program as an engine for sale, perhaps as a >>>>>>>chessbase engine, this would also cover your expenses and then some. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I think you have to take part of the blame for your financial woes and not blame >>>>>>>others. >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't see it that way. It's just not Crafty's nature to be a money making >>>>>>machine. Same thing with several other programs there. It's rather pointless >>>>>>to turn the tournament into something that is only posible to compete in if you >>>>>>have a comercial program. Besides, why would he have turned Crafty into a >>>>>>commercial program in anticipation of this event? Doesn't make sense to me. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pete >>>>> >>>>>Crafty ? >>>>> >>>>>Note the thread header 'Re: WMCC/Ferret? >>>>> >>>>>How did Crafty get in here, Crafty cannot make money because of an agreement >>>>>between, Dr. Hyatt and the University he works for, he cannot make money on the >>>>>program, hence it is freeware. >>>>> >>>>>Remember, I was only discussing Ferret. Please read my posts _carefully_ before >>>>>you comment. Bye >>>> >>>>That was reckless of me. But apply the exact same thing I said about Crafty to >>>>Ferret. It still applies. Bruce could turn Ferret into a commercial venture, >>>>but all for the sake of an occasional tournament? No, it's not going to happen >>>>for the sake of covering tournament costs. >>>> >>>>Pete >>> >>>Last year he came in second and could certainly have sold his engine as a CB >>>engine. He chose not too. Now he complains he has no money for tournaments. I >>>think Bruce has only one person to blame, instead of trying to hang others for >>>his own poor decisions. >> >>Odd that you complain about others not reading your posts carefully when you >>yourself have completely distorted what Bruce posted. >> >>Here is what he said in http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?125741 : >> >>"I'm also a little grumpy because the event hasn't been held in North America >>for approximately forever, and I've had to pay for a big plane ticket every time >>it's been in Europe. Every time in recent memory that the event has been >>outside of Europe, there has been travel support. I am concerned that the event >>is turning into a European championship." >> >>Note there is no mention of financial woes involved. The question is one of >>equality for all. Quite American. >> >> Albert Silver > >The event really needs to be in North America, but perhaps it's too late, and >nobody would go unless they got travel support. > >In the past it's been pretty easy to fill a 24-entrant roster, but this time >there were 14. So maybe $100 or whatever the fee was, plus a trip to the edge >of Europe (as opposed to the center), was enough to drive away almost half the >field this time. > >bruce There were other factors. Dark thought is not playing because they did not know that they can play and only 2 weeks before the event the rules were changed and alpha was allowed. Uri
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