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Subject: Re: amateur

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:50:26 08/27/00

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On August 26, 2000 at 17:30:13, kurt wrote:

>On August 26, 2000 at 13:56:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2000 at 13:46:15, kurt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 26, 2000 at 11:16:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 26, 2000 at 10:59:51, walter irvin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   has an amatuer program ever one a world championship ?
>>>>
>>>>Yes
>>>>
>>>>Junior4.5 won the WMCCC in 1997 when it was amatuer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if programs like
>>>>>fritz,rebel,tiger,hiarcs,junior,nimzo cant win a title anymore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We do not know that they cannot win a title in the future.
>
>>>>
>>>> .what chance does
>>>>>programs like diep,crafty,sos,lg2000 ect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Diep and Sos and lg2000 are professional program.
>>>>The last 2 are sold in the young talent package.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>><snipped>
>>>I belief the difference between "Pro's" and "Amateurs" at this time,
>>>is the human guidance / or interference to let engines
>>>reach sound opening positions.
>>
>>
>>I do not believe it.
>>
>>Shredder got a lost position out of the opening against nimzo and drew the game.
>>
>>Uri
>>You missed my point. Lets look at position move 18.Nh2
>>An engine would not reach such a position.
>>White burned all bridges to attack Blacks King.
>>This is human guidance and not engine knowledgeBase.
>>Tactical analysis my require more than 20 ply search to
>>reach a conclusion for this position to clear.
>>Therefore an engine should not be left in such a
>>position if its Search capability is inadaquate.

Shredder is professional program and it was left in this position with black
so the point is that I do not see that the human guide for shredder in this
game.

I believe that the main difference between pro's and amatuers is the fact that
the pro's have better engines.

Uri



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