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Subject: Re: But Shredder 5, SHOULD be better than last years programs!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:56:18 08/27/00

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On August 27, 2000 at 08:43:33, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On August 27, 2000 at 08:19:14, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>
>>unless shredder5 is rigorously tested either by the SSDF or by enrique irazoqui
>>against other top and not so top programmes over a large number of games, one
>>cannot confidently proclaim that shredder5 is the strongest so far, let alone
>>stronger overall than shredder4. so far fritz6 and junior 6  taken on all comers
>>and come out on top.this result has been duplicated by enrique in the cadaques
>>tournament.unless there is proof to the contrary i would still consider fritz6
>>nad junior6 to jointly hold the title of the ''stongest single processor PC
>>programmes''. a newer version does not necessarily mean stronger(Mchess pro,
>>rebel and genius are notable examples of newer versions being weaker than their
>>predecessors.
>>
>>Shredder5, no doubt, is strong, but is it the strongest?
>>
>>rajen
>
>Hi Rajen,
>
>The new Shredder will be stronger than Shredder 4, I am sure of it. The current
>beta is between 30 and 60 points stronger than S4, and the final version will be
>even stronger. That's about the engine alone. Sandro's book could significantly
>contribute to Shredder's performance, particularly in comp-comp, although much
>less than years ago, before programs had learners.
>
>Sandro posted that S5 will be 80 points stronger than F6a, which means about 150
>more than S4. I don't believe it for a second. Programs improve and the new
>Shredder will be great, but miracles are something else.

We will have to wait and see.

150 elo improvement is not a miracle.
It is a very good result but it is not impossible.

It is clearly possible in 3 years and I see no proof that it is impossible in 1
year.

I am also not sure if 80 points stronger than Fritz6a will be enough to be
number 1 in the ssdf list.

Uri



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