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Subject: Re: I am not sure that laws would say that Millenium is in the right

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 15:52:05 08/27/00

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On August 26, 2000 at 11:29:01, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 26, 2000 at 11:18:17, Sylvain Renard wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2000 at 10:06:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>The reason is that the millenium did not let them to test other programs in the
>>>same package like Genius6.5
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>  Genius 6.5 and Shredder 4 are commercial products.
>>In a way, the editor does not accept that these programs
>>are tested.
>>Can you imagine one second for example a car constructor saying
>>"I refuse to be compared to the other similar products and
>>I refuse that tests are done with this model" ???
>>Same thing with computers for instance :-)
>>
>>I don't know what are the threats which has been done against
>>SSDF, but I am not sure they would not win in front on a tribunal
>>(which one?) if they published a rating for Genius 6.5 or Shredder 4.
>>They should consult international lawyers (anyone here?).
>>  Best regards,
>>    Sylvain Renard
>
>They believe that they can win in court but they do not want to go to court.
>
>Uri

Court? It would never go to court as there is no legal basis for it. I'll repost
what I wrote earlier to Hans Christian Lykke, one of the SSDF testers:

I've said this before and I'll say it again: I don't understand why you need
Millenium's permission to publish your results at all. Even if the license
agreement states this and you agree to it, it is absolutely powerless legally.
At least in Brazil such a contract would be valueless because the stipulations
are legally valueless. I'll give you a small example: the owner of my apartment
here in Rio included a number of unpleasant clauses in the rental contract
placing the financial responsibility of certain maintenance obligations on me.
These clauses are completely non-standard and ridiculous, yet I still signed it.
Why? Because by law those responsibilities are his and no contract is above the
law, so should a problem arise and push comes to shove (an English expression
that means we see who is stronger), it is he who will have to reach for his
wallet, not I. I do not know what Swedish law is like, but I'd be surprised if
it were different on this matter. Consult a lawyer rather than be intimidated by
a pointless agreement. I understand why Rebel is not there, as Schroeder has
stated that the auto232 affects the results and therefore compromises the
objectivity of the tests, but to my knowledge no such claim was made about
Shredder. Furthermore, Stefan has stated himself here in this forum that he had
no problem with Shredder being tested, so you would not even be going against
the programmer's wishes.

                                      Albert Silver




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