Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:43:28 12/04/97
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On December 04, 1997 at 10:49:21, Amir Ban wrote: >On December 04, 1997 at 05:43:47, Peter Herttrich wrote: > >>On December 03, 1997 at 18:42:04, Chris Whittington wrote: >> >> > >>Then, from what you are talking? WIN95 is no OS! It's a GUI! >>You don't believe it? Ever made the 'mode co80 test'? >>If you drive down your WIN95, wait for the 'You can now switch off the >>computer'. Now type blind 'mode co80'. Voila, DOS7! Clean and pure. >> >>This combination of software (DOS7 and the WIN95GUI) is the biggest >>pile of software-shit, i've ever seen. >>And this makes the trouble with installing and running. >> >>I will never understand why Mickey-Soft has not build a real 32Bit- >>DOS and then a usable GUI. >> > >This is a very wrong description of Windows. > >Windows is a true O/S, and has been since version 3.0. Its real kernel >is the VMM and the VxD's, which are 32-bit protected mode code, and have >nothing to do with DOS. Windows 3.x had to be started from DOS, so there >was a misconception that Windows runs on top of DOS. In reality the DOS >support that exists in Windows runs on top of Windows. Microsoft of >course always wanted DOS programs to run on Windows, so Windows has a >DOS emulator through int 21 hex. In the past large parts of this DOS >emulator were taken from the original DOS code itself, especially the >FAT file-system. In Windows 95, almost the entire DOS emulator is 32-bit >protected-mode code. > >Windows still briefly goes through DOS 7.0 for bootstrapping, but once >the system is up, DOS 7.0 is not in charge. > >Regarding plug-n-play, you can argue about its success, but you have to >give due credit to Microsoft for making a serious effort to solve a >problem that they correctly see as making systems not to work and >keeping ordinary users away from computers. DOS never even thought of >this, and the highly-praised Unix is still in the stone age in that >regard. > >Amir > > >>Peter You were doing so well until your last sentence. :) I am running linux on everything I own. No hassles. Works with all the video devices I have tried, ditto for motherboards, processors, sound, etc. Unix is harder to use than win95, *unless* you use unix and x-windows. Then you can even get a win95-like window manager and pretend you are using win95 if you insist. :) But unix is a *long* way from the stone age. IE TCP/IP, SMP support, process management, memory management. Oh yes, can you spell "file system security and permissions?" :)
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