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Subject: Re: Questions to be answered in the WMCCC.

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 04:10:27 08/28/00

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On August 28, 2000 at 06:28:08, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 28, 2000 at 06:02:23, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>
>>>>>>>Which program is best in playing human players? Shredder 5.0
>>>>>
>>>>>no, no, no. much better is rebel.
>>>
>>>Oh? How was this determined? I agree Rebel is great at playing against human
>>>opponents, but 'much better'? I recall that Shredder's results in the Israeli
>>>leagues were not too bad.
>>
>>have you ever seen rebel was beaten in a human-comp comparison by another
>>program in the last years?
>>neither in israel, nor at the aegon tournament.
>
>The aegon tournament was a long time ago so I cannot count it today.
>
>Rebel did the best result in Israel against humans but you can blame the
>operator of shredder for this fact.
>
>If you compare Junior's results in dortmund with other results you can see that
>Junior did the best results so the picture is not clear.
>
>Rebel may be the best against humans but I am not sure about it.
>
>The meaning of being the best against humans is also not clear because it is
>possible that one program is best in winning weak players when another program
>is best in playing against strong players.
>
>>have you played yourself many programs?
>>i can say, that i sometimes can survive against tiger, seldom shredder and
>>fritz, but i have not a single draw against rebel. only losses!
>
>It proves that Rebel is the best against you but it does not prove that Rebel is
>the best against humans.
>
>Uri

I think you are missing an important point. Have you ever seen Rebel
strangled in the last 25-30 GM games as we have seen in the dutch
championship and at Dortmund?

Ed



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