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Subject: Re: Questions to be answered in the WMCCC.

Author: Marcus Kaestner

Date: 12:50:23 08/28/00

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>Obviously it is not the worst book. It's a very well tested book.
>Only superseeded by the Kure book and Noomen preparation.
>
>I found Noomen prepared the best for the WMCC. Because of the many
>fritz interfaces and not having the worst engines,
>Kure scored however most points on book. Also the fact that many
>books at WMCC still relied heavily on automatically generated books
>favours Kure a lot.

with a good book you also should not come into lost line. the kure book was the
only one not to be surprised by a direct win.

>
>The Shredder book doesn't kill you like those books do. However instead
>it allows you to slowly die into a position where shredder will play well.
>
>Also don't forget that when preparing a shredder book you CAN allow shredder
>to play a few moves on its own, Kure hardly can't. He's not allowed to
>use a real good engine with his book!

but don´t forget that this helps nothing when the position is directly lost.

>>>>Which program had the worst middlegame?
>>>>Which program was the best in the endgame? Shredder 5.0
>
>>yes, but even close rebel and tiger.
>
>Not near to that. Shredder ruled in the endgame by a large margin,
>no one even getting close.

i disagree. rebel can outplay shredder in the endgame regularely.
and rebel can defend an endgame very well, if it is defendable.
the difference is: shredder is able to hold totally lost positions. he is the
best "swindler".

no other program has this ability.

in "normal" endgames tiger and rebel are more than competitable.

>>>>Which program is best in noticing attacks and attacking? Shredder 5.0
>>
>>i would prefer junior.
>
>Junior is very bad here. For example
>it didn't see a thing when DIEP attacked it.

maybe. but take a look onto the junior-rebel and shredder-junior games.
nice attacks.

>>not so very clear. rebel has the best evaluation, tiger the best search and
>>fritz the best combination of these two points. bt for me it is clear, that
>>these four programs are dominating at the moment.
>>with a reasonable book i predict tiger to overrun shredder.
>
>Comon the tiger book at WMCC was way better as Shredder.

absolutely not. the tiger book was focussed only on rebel.
but tiger isn´t able to play rebel lines. this was seen in many games.

>
>Tiger even got won out of book against the big Kure book with the
>novelty as played in the Fritz-Tiger game.

not at all. maybe tiger was better, but i´m not able to see a clear win. do you?
which line?




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