Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 11:26:44 08/29/00
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On August 29, 2000 at 14:14:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 29, 2000 at 11:50:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On August 29, 2000 at 11:44:24, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I can say that Fritz did not get a winning position out of book against Crafty. >>> >>>I found that Crafty17.11 can find 21.Nxe6 against Fritz with more time. >>>[D]1r2kb1r/2qb1p2/p3pP2/1pp5/3NP2p/P1N2Q2/2P4P/1K1R1BR1 w k - 0 1 >>> >>> >>>Unfortunately Crafty did not have good alpha that it probably needed in order to >>>find this move. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Oh well Fritz searching 13 ply extending lots of checks and doing >>checks in qsearch against crafty with crafty a king nearly mated and >>searching 12 to 13 ply without doing checks in qsearch. Note that >>fritz has also a lot of threat extensions. >> >>Crafty repeated exactly the same line as against Nimzo. Very dumb. >> >>So it was dead lost from all sides. >> >>Play 100 games crafty here against DIEP, Fritz, Nimzo, Zchess, SOS, >>Shredder or anything that is doing either a lot of checks or doing >>checks in qsearch. Bye Bye crafty. Crafty in Najdorf is a zero in advance >>at icc it basically plays e6 d6 systems. NOT aggressive najdorf systems. >> > > >I think checks in the q-search is an exaggerated advantage. I play all of >the above programs on ICC, all the time, and I am not getting rolled into a >ball by any of them.n Didn't you play a bunch of games vs crafty using a >quad 550 xeon for Diep? Did those q-search checks make a big difference? > > > > >>So selecting this opening is stupid in advance anyway, like i discovered >>with DIEP in Caro-Kann. > > >I don't think it is a bad opening. I generally don't play the Sicilian as >black against computers. As white, I alternate between d4 and e4 openings >so black will get a chance to play Sicilians. At a reasonable time control, >my quad will find nxe6. My PII/400 notebook fails low at 5 minutes. The >xeon would probably fail low at the 1-1.5 min mark. It would then use as >much time as needed and would certainly find Nxe6. I am surprised that the >alpha didn't have time to find this, or at least have time to fail low at >depth-14, which is strange. OH dear. How do i start explaining here. I'm talking to a mountain here. Najdorf is a very specialistic part of the sicilian where the black king is facing bunches of checks in the center. Wanting to castle there, OR being tactical weak there OR falling into a book line means you lose. The rest of the sicilians i don't talk about here. We talk here about crafty single cpu at 300k nps against an opponent at a million NPS. We don't talk about a few blitz games B01 or something at icc. We talk about WMCC and about Crafty versus Fritz where crafty repeats a line which and loses chanceless, even though everyone in this room felt it wasn't smart to repeat the same B99 mainline as against Nimzo. Still finding Nxe6 doesn't solve the problem for you. You lose a few moves further then.
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