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Subject: Re: DIEP in WMCCC2000 London - long story

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:40:44 08/29/00

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On August 29, 2000 at 14:20:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>Graham,
>
>both games were Najdorf classical mainline B99.
>
>I know this is hard to realize, but then you were already lost.
>
>That fritz didn't finish it like Kasparov there is quite logical,
>even objective you usual make a chance,
>yet you were never better as Crafty lost with
>induction to the search.

I don't agree with this yet.  Nxe6 gives black a lot of
trouble as well...




>
>In testgames crafty-fritz that must have been 0-100.
>
>On August 29, 2000 at 14:08:40, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>>Crafty however had lost chanceless on book against Nimzo with white.
>>>It would play against the EXACTLY same book against Fritz now for sure,
>>>a sure zero again. 100% chance. Now i
>>>WARNED Graham that it was NOT a good idea to again play the same line
>>>against Fritz.
>>>
>>>"learning will prevent that, and don't tell them i have a different book too".
>>>
>>>But he did not CHECK whether in that different book a different line
>>>would get played, despite warnings that it would happen. If you use an
>>>automatically
>>>generated book there is 100% chance you lose against the Kure book in the
>>>Najdorf,
>>>you can only hope the engine crashes somewhere playing thereby a help mate in 1
>>>move.
>>>
>>>In fact this 'new' crafty book was even more pathetic as against Nimzo.
>>>It didn't even know the Rg1-g7 moves.
>>>
>>>I don't need to mention that it lost in the 9th round in
>>>exactly the same mainline against
>>>Fritz as it did against Nimzo.
>>
>>Actually, Crafty played into a very different game against Fritz than it did
>>against Nimzo. Crafty appeared to have the advantage for much of the game
>>against Fritz, because Fritz (after Crafty had played a different line)
>>sacrificed a knight to expose Crafty's king (and to create a kingside passed
>>pawn, which was eventually used to win the game).
>>
>>If you wish to see this for yourself, look at the games on the ICCA web site -
>>http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~olympiad/
>>
>>Crafty v Fritz was round 9, Crafty V Nimzo was either round 3 or 4.
>
>>-g
>>
>>>Now suppose Graham had not ignored my warning, and he would have been more
>>>fanatic
>>>to NOT lose the same line for the second time. I'm SURE it would not have
>>>mattered,
>>>because how in the world could he change the crafty book within say 5 minutes?
>>>
>>>He would NEVER have managed this.



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