Author: pavel
Date: 18:45:11 08/29/00
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On August 29, 2000 at 14:26:44, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On August 29, 2000 at 14:14:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 29, 2000 at 11:50:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On August 29, 2000 at 11:44:24, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I can say that Fritz did not get a winning position out of book against Crafty. >>>> >>>>I found that Crafty17.11 can find 21.Nxe6 against Fritz with more time. >>>>[D]1r2kb1r/2qb1p2/p3pP2/1pp5/3NP2p/P1N2Q2/2P4P/1K1R1BR1 w k - 0 1 >>>> >>>> >>>>Unfortunately Crafty did not have good alpha that it probably needed in order to >>>>find this move. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Oh well Fritz searching 13 ply extending lots of checks and doing >>>checks in qsearch against crafty with crafty a king nearly mated and >>>searching 12 to 13 ply without doing checks in qsearch. Note that >>>fritz has also a lot of threat extensions. >>> >>>Crafty repeated exactly the same line as against Nimzo. Very dumb. >>> >>>So it was dead lost from all sides. >>> >>>Play 100 games crafty here against DIEP, Fritz, Nimzo, Zchess, SOS, >>>Shredder or anything that is doing either a lot of checks or doing >>>checks in qsearch. Bye Bye crafty. Crafty in Najdorf is a zero in advance >>>at icc it basically plays e6 d6 systems. NOT aggressive najdorf systems. >>> >> >> >>I think checks in the q-search is an exaggerated advantage. I play all of >>the above programs on ICC, all the time, and I am not getting rolled into a >>ball by any of them.n Didn't you play a bunch of games vs crafty using a >>quad 550 xeon for Diep? Did those q-search checks make a big difference? >> >> >> >> >>>So selecting this opening is stupid in advance anyway, like i discovered >>>with DIEP in Caro-Kann. >> >> >>I don't think it is a bad opening. I generally don't play the Sicilian as >>black against computers. As white, I alternate between d4 and e4 openings >>so black will get a chance to play Sicilians. At a reasonable time control, >>my quad will find nxe6. My PII/400 notebook fails low at 5 minutes. The >>xeon would probably fail low at the 1-1.5 min mark. It would then use as >>much time as needed and would certainly find Nxe6. I am surprised that the >>alpha didn't have time to find this, or at least have time to fail low at >>depth-14, which is strange. > >OH dear. How do i start explaining here. I'm talking to a mountain here. > >Najdorf is a very specialistic part of the sicilian where the black king >is facing bunches of checks in the center. Wanting to castle there, >OR being tactical weak there OR falling into a book line means you lose. > >The rest of the sicilians i don't talk about here. We talk here about >crafty single cpu at 300k nps against an opponent at a million NPS. > >We don't talk about a few blitz games B01 or something at icc. > >We talk about WMCC and about Crafty versus Fritz where crafty >repeats a line which and loses chanceless, even though everyone >in this room felt it wasn't smart to repeat the same B99 mainline >as against Nimzo. > >Still finding Nxe6 doesn't solve the problem for you. > >You lose a few moves further then. I still dont understand why DIEP didnt win this tournament..... Its amazing how much knowledge you and DIEP has.... I guess DIEP gets unlucky (??) all the time just like shredder gets lucky (??) all the time. :) pavel
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