Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 02:11:42 08/30/00
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Oh well crafty has achieved in this championship 0 out of 4 in Najdorf. Not a score to be proud of. I miss your redenation completely. It didn't play Nxe6 to start with. Fritz isn't a holy program. It makes mistakes. Yet it fried crafty here. Perhaps give a tip? Never play najdorf again with crafty! On August 29, 2000 at 21 :40:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 29, 2000 at 14:20:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>Graham, >> >>both games were Najdorf classical mainline B99. >> >>I know this is hard to realize, but then you were already lost. >> >>That fritz didn't finish it like Kasparov there is quite logical, >>even objective you usual make a chance, >>yet you were never better as Crafty lost with >>induction to the search. > >I don't agree with this yet. Nxe6 gives black a lot of >trouble as well... > > > > >> >>In testgames crafty-fritz that must have been 0-100. >> >>On August 29, 2000 at 14:08:40, Graham Laight wrote: >> >>>>Crafty however had lost chanceless on book against Nimzo with white. >>>>It would play against the EXACTLY same book against Fritz now for sure, >>>>a sure zero again. 100% chance. Now i >>>>WARNED Graham that it was NOT a good idea to again play the same line >>>>against Fritz. >>>> >>>>"learning will prevent that, and don't tell them i have a different book too". >>>> >>>>But he did not CHECK whether in that different book a different line >>>>would get played, despite warnings that it would happen. If you use an >>>>automatically >>>>generated book there is 100% chance you lose against the Kure book in the >>>>Najdorf, >>>>you can only hope the engine crashes somewhere playing thereby a help mate in 1 >>>>move. >>>> >>>>In fact this 'new' crafty book was even more pathetic as against Nimzo. >>>>It didn't even know the Rg1-g7 moves. >>>> >>>>I don't need to mention that it lost in the 9th round in >>>>exactly the same mainline against >>>>Fritz as it did against Nimzo. >>> >>>Actually, Crafty played into a very different game against Fritz than it did >>>against Nimzo. Crafty appeared to have the advantage for much of the game >>>against Fritz, because Fritz (after Crafty had played a different line) >>>sacrificed a knight to expose Crafty's king (and to create a kingside passed >>>pawn, which was eventually used to win the game). >>> >>>If you wish to see this for yourself, look at the games on the ICCA web site - >>>http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~olympiad/ >>> >>>Crafty v Fritz was round 9, Crafty V Nimzo was either round 3 or 4. >> >>>-g >>> >>>>Now suppose Graham had not ignored my warning, and he would have been more >>>>fanatic >>>>to NOT lose the same line for the second time. I'm SURE it would not have >>>>mattered, >>>>because how in the world could he change the crafty book within say 5 minutes? >>>> >>>>He would NEVER have managed this.
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