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Subject: Re: Interesting Position

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 15:54:49 08/30/00

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On August 30, 2000 at 16:01:52, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>This position is what could have happened in Nimzo - Shredder in London.
>Is from the possible variation 24...Qxb4 25.Qxd5
>
>Even this position requires 13ply (about 7.5 hours on my P133) for Lambchop to
>return a really bad score (see output below).  I'd be interested in how other
>programs go on this position. (Note the terrible branching factor at depth 12
>and 13)
>
>[D]r3rb1k/6p1/p2p3p/1ppQ4/Pq6/5NRP/5PP1/1B2R1K1 b - -
>
>    _______________________   Black to play
> 8 |br|__|__|__|br|bb|__|bk|
> 7 |__|__|__|__|__|__|bp|__|
> 6 |bp|__|__|bp|__|__|__|bp|
> 5 |__|bp|bp|WQ|__|__|__|__|
> 4 |WP|bq|__|__|__|__|__|__|
> 3 |__|__|__|__|__|WN|WR|WP|
> 2 |__|__|__|__|__|WP|WP|__|
> 1 |__|WB|__|__|WR|__|WK|__|
>     a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h
>
>Depth, score, time, nodes
>
> 0    0     0       0 e8e1
> 1  204     0      57 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2
> 2  204     0     228 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2
> 3  225     0     487 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 a8e8
> 4  280     0    1451 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 g1h2 b4b1
> 5  209   100    5007 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8 f5h7 g8f7 h7g6 f7e7
> 6  209   200   10404 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8
> 7   73   700   68142 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1b1 d5a8 b1f5 g3f3 f5e5 h2h1
> 8   73  1100  118111 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 d5d3 g7g6
> 9   32  2600  286579 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8b8 d5f5 d6d5 h2h1 g7g6 f5g
>6
>10  -25  7200  826264 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8d8 d5d3 g7g6 d3g6 a8a7 b1a
>2
>11   32 14700 1740365 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8b8 d5f5 g7g6 f5g6 b8b7
>
>12  -19 441600 53229976 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8d8 d5d3 g7g6 d3g6 d8d7 b
>1e4 d6d5 g6f6 h8g8
>
>13 -112 2648900 320991614 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8 f5h7 g8f7 g3f3 f7e8
>Q b1g6 e8d7 f3f8 e1e7 a4b5 a6b5 h7g8 b4c4 g6f5 d7c7

Analysis by Fritz 6b and Junior 6a on P600E with 184MB hash:

r3rb1k/6p1/p2p3p/1ppQ4/Pq6/5NRP/5PP1/1B2R1K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6:

1...Qxe1+--
  +-  (1.56)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Qxe1+--
  +-  (1.56)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+!
  ±  (1.28)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+! 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2
  -+  (-1.91)   Depth: 1/11   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2
  -+  (-1.91)   Depth: 2/9   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+!
  -+  (-2.22)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Rb8 4.Qf5 bxa4
  -+  (-2.44)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  2kN
1...Rxe1+--
  -+  (-2.13)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00  5kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Re8 3.Qf5 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Kg8 5.Qh7+ Kf7
  -+  (-1.97)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  12kN
1...Rxe1+--
  -+  (-1.66)   Depth: 6/20   00:00:00  26kN
1...Rxe1+--
  -+  (-1.66)   Depth: 6/20   00:00:00  38kN
1...Rxe1+--
  µ  (-1.34)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  78kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Qd3 g6 5.Rxg6 Qe5+ 6.g3
  µ  (-0.94)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  121kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Qb8 5.Qf5 d5+ 6.Kg1
  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  220kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Qd3 g6 5.Rxg6 Ra7 6.Bc2
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:01  473kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Qb8 5.Qd3 d5+ 6.g3
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:02  1038kN
1...Rxe1+--
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:04  2138kN
1...Rxe1+--
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:04  2453kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Qd3 g6 5.Rxg6 Qe5+ 6.g3
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:08  4509kN
1...Rxe1+--
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/31   00:00:19  9791kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Qb8 5.Qd3 d5+ 6.Rg3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:23  12369kN
1...Rxe1+--
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:53  27467kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Qb8 5.Qf7 d5+ 6.Kh1
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 14/37   00:01:18  40192kN
1...Rxe1+--
  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 15/38   00:03:14  99255kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Qxb1 3.Qxa8 Qxe1+ 4.Kh2 Qxf2 5.Rf3 Qd4 6.Qxf8+
  +-  (1.94)   Depth: 15/41   00:08:39  255497kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxb1 3.Qxa8 Qxe1+ 4.Kh2 Qxf2 5.Rf3 Qd4 6.Qxf8+
  +-  (1.94)   Depth: 16/41   00:15:20  463718kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxb1 3.Qxa8 Qxe1+ 4.Kh2 Qxf2 5.Rf3 Qd4 6.Rxf8+
  +-  (2.00)   Depth: 17/44   00:25:54  786886kN
1...Rxe1+--
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 18/45   00:50:32  1542232kN
1...Rxe1+-- 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Be7 5.Rxe7 Qf8 6.Qd3
  +-  (2.44)   Depth: 18/45   01:01:47  1882796kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Be7 5.Rxe7 Qf8 6.Qd3
  +-  (2.62)   Depth: 19/46   02:08:07  3930647kN

(Irazoqui, Cadaqués 31.08.2000)

r3rb1k/6p1/p2p3p/1ppQ4/Pq6/5NRP/5PP1/1B2R1K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 6.0:

1...c4 2.Rxe8 Rxe8
  +-  (1.97)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Re8 4.Bg6 Re2 5.axb5 axb5
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Re8 4.Bg6 Re2 5.axb5 axb5
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Re8 4.Bg6 Re2 5.axb5 axb5
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Qd3 g6 5.Rxg6 Ra7 6.axb5 axb5
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  420kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Qb8 5.Qf5 d5+ 6.Rg3 Kg8 7.Qe6+ Kh8
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:03  1352kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 14   00:00:15  6560kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Re8 3.Qf5 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Kg8 5.Qh7+ Kf7 6.Bg6+ Ke6 7.Qg8+ Kd7
8.Qxf8 Qd4 9.Bd3 Qxa4 10.Rxg7+ Kc6
  +-  (2.17)   Depth: 16   00:03:37  105882kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Re8 3.Qf5 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Kg8 5.Qd5+ Kh8 6.Qf7 Qc4 7.Qxf8+ Qg8
8.Qxd6 c4 9.Qb4 Re5 10.axb5 axb5
  +-  (2.21)   Depth: 17   00:05:49  166460kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Re8 3.Qf5 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Kg8 5.Qd5+ Kh8 6.Qf7 Qc4 7.Qxf8+ Qg8
8.Qxd6 c4 9.Qb4 Re6 10.axb5 Rb6
  +-  (2.41)   Depth: 18   00:13:30  380296kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Re8 3.Qf5 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Kg8 5.Qd5+ Kh8 6.Qf7 Qc4 7.Qxf8+ Qg8
8.Qxd6 c4 9.Qb4 Re6 10.axb5 Rb6
  +-  (2.30)   Depth: 19   00:21:43  602710kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1
  +-  (2.60)   Depth: 20   01:06:06  1912700kN
1...Rxe1+ 2.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 3.Kh2 Qe8 4.Re3 Be7 5.Rxe7 Qg8 6.Qxd6 bxa4 7.Bg6 Rc8
8.Qd7 a3 9.Bf7 Qf8 10.Re3 Rd8
  +-  (2.65)   Depth: 21   02:05:38  3715628kN

(Irazoqui, Cadaqués 31.08.2000)



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