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Subject: Re: What is the principle continuation of Rxb2?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:31:15 08/31/00

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On August 31, 2000 at 04:06:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 30, 2000 at 10:03:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2000 at 09:32:28, Larry Griffiths wrote:
>>
>>>On August 30, 2000 at 08:59:51, Michel Langeveld wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 30, 2000 at 08:35:26, Larry Griffiths wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am testing the following WAC position...
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - bm Rxb2; id "WAC002";
>>>>>
>>>>>My program keeps picking c3 so I figure it has a bug some where.
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the principle contiunation after Rxb2.  I figure that it promotes a pawn
>>>>>somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry :)
>>>>
>>>>The folowing data is in CAP:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>D:\>grep -i "8\/7p\/5k2\/5p2\/p1p2P2\/Pr1pPK2\/1P1R3P\/8" cap.epd
>>>>
>>>>8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - acd 14; acn 114206936; ce 322; pv Rxb
>>>>2 Rxb2 c3 Rb6+ Ke7 Rb7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Kc5 Rb7 c2 Rxh7 d2 Rc7+ Kd6 Rxc2 d1=Q+ Re2 Qf1+
>>>> Rf2 Qd3 h4 Qxa3; pm Rxb2; bm Rxb2; id "WAC.002";
>>>
>>>It looks like I must run this to 17 or 18 plys deep then.  I thought the
>>>promotion might occur before 17 or 18 plys.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>Larry :)
>>
>>
>>If you do any kind of search extensions, you ought to pick the solution up
>>at 11-12-13 plies or so.  The problem is all the checks by white, after
>>black gets the unstoppable pawns.  A program can use those to push the
>>promotion off a long way...
>
>About 14 ply with check extensions and promotions in qsearch.
>Less if you do passed pawn extensions. Problem of evaluation here is
>that king is in quadrant but hindered by pawn at e3, otherwise white
>wins easily here after Rxb2.


I have always solved this one at 12 plies tactically, although I get it much
quicker due to evaluation...  The main problem is all the checks by white after
the rook sacrifice by black, which holds off the impending promotion for a good
while.



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