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Subject: Re: Interesting Position

Author: Larry Griffiths

Date: 06:34:56 08/31/00

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On August 30, 2000 at 16:01:52, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>This position is what could have happened in Nimzo - Shredder in London.
>Is from the possible variation 24...Qxb4 25.Qxd5
>
>Even this position requires 13ply (about 7.5 hours on my P133) for Lambchop to
>return a really bad score (see output below).  I'd be interested in how other
>programs go on this position. (Note the terrible branching factor at depth 12
>and 13)
>
>[D]r3rb1k/6p1/p2p3p/1ppQ4/Pq6/5NRP/5PP1/1B2R1K1 b - -
>
>    _______________________   Black to play
> 8 |br|__|__|__|br|bb|__|bk|
> 7 |__|__|__|__|__|__|bp|__|
> 6 |bp|__|__|bp|__|__|__|bp|
> 5 |__|bp|bp|WQ|__|__|__|__|
> 4 |WP|bq|__|__|__|__|__|__|
> 3 |__|__|__|__|__|WN|WR|WP|
> 2 |__|__|__|__|__|WP|WP|__|
> 1 |__|WB|__|__|WR|__|WK|__|
>     a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h
>
>Depth, score, time, nodes
>
> 0    0     0       0 e8e1
> 1  204     0      57 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2
> 2  204     0     228 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2
> 3  225     0     487 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 a8e8
> 4  280     0    1451 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 g1h2 b4b1
> 5  209   100    5007 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8 f5h7 g8f7 h7g6 f7e7
> 6  209   200   10404 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8
> 7   73   700   68142 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1b1 d5a8 b1f5 g3f3 f5e5 h2h1
> 8   73  1100  118111 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 d5d3 g7g6
> 9   32  2600  286579 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8b8 d5f5 d6d5 h2h1 g7g6 f5g
>6
>10  -25  7200  826264 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8d8 d5d3 g7g6 d3g6 a8a7 b1a
>2
>11   32 14700 1740365 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8b8 d5f5 g7g6 f5g6 b8b7
>
>12  -19 441600 53229976 e8e1 f3e1 b4e1 g1h2 e1e8 g3e3 e8d8 d5d3 g7g6 d3g6 d8d7 b
>1e4 d6d5 g6f6 h8g8
>
>13 -112 2648900 320991614 e8e1 f3e1 a8e8 d5f5 e8e1 g1h2 h8g8 f5h7 g8f7 g3f3 f7e8
>Q b1g6 e8d7 f3f8 e1e7 a4b5 a6b5 h7g8 b4c4 g6f5 d7c7

Mine thinks it looks drawish at ply 10.


00:00:10.615 10 -            4000   Qxe1 Nxe1 Rxe1 Kh2  Ra7  Qf5  Rxb1 Qxb1 bxa4
Rxg7
00:00:13.329 10 -               0   Rxe1 Nxe1 Re8  Nd3  Qxb1 Kh2  bxa4 Qf7  Re2
Qxf8
00:00:26.238 10 -               0   Rxe1  <----------

00:00:34.249 11 -            3000   Qxe1 Nxe1 Rxe1 Kh2  Ra7  Qf5  Rxb1 Qxb1 bxa4
f3   c4
00:00:42.842 11 -           -2000   Rxe1 Nxe1 Qxe1 Kh2  Ra7  Qd3  g5   Qf5  Kg7
Qh7  Kf6
00:02:06.682 11 -           -2000   Rxe1  <----------

00:02:31.949 12 -            4000   Qxe1 Nxe1 Rxe1 Kh2  Rd8  Qd3  Rxb1 Qxb1 bxa4
h4   Rd7  Rxg7
00:03:05.226 12 -            1000   Rxe1 Nxe1 Qxe1 Kh2  Rd8  Qd3  Kg8  Qh7  Kf7
Qf5  Ke7  Qxf8
00:08:33.749 12 -            1000   Rxe1  <----------

00:10:38.488 13 -            3000   Qxe1 Nxe1 Rxe1 Kh2  Rd8  Qf5  Kg8  axb5 axb5
Rf3  g6   Qxg6 Kh8
00:12:47.864 13 -           -2000   Rxe1 Nxe1 Re8  Qf5  Rxe1 Kh2  Kg8  Qh7  Kf7
Ba2  Ke7  axb5 axb5
00:37:54.991 13 -           -2000   Rxe1  <----------

00:46:41.989 14 -            5000   Qxe1 Nxe1 Rxe1 Kh2  Rb8  Qf5  Rxb1 Qxb1 c4
axb5 axb5 f3   c3   Qxb5
00:56:02.575 14 -            1000   Rxe1 Nxe1 Qxe1 Kh2  Qe8  axb5 axb5 Qd3  g6
Qf3  g5   h4   d5   Qxf8
02:27:46.409 14 -            1000   Rxe1  <----------




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