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Subject: Re: Something else and maybe final about DOS obstinacy

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:24:51 12/07/97

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On December 07, 1997 at 09:14:16, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>It's nice to see that you are in agreement about big businessmen. Here
>>are some traditional European ways to be one: Monopolies, tariffs, trade
>>barriers, government protectionism, corruption.
>
>(for any point you list above I could give you a name out of the german
>scene !!
>You are right. These are a few methods ! What is the english word for
>Abmahnungen ? This is also a nice way to put pressure on somebody. Or
>the normal way: you threaten somebody with the announcement that you
>will not anymore deliver him, if he sells your product at this low
>price. )
>
>>In the US software industry, unfortunately the only way to be successful
>>is the old and tried method of doing what your customers want and giving
>>good value for money.
>
>This is what Gates did ? :-)
>No  Amir, Gates did not the AMERICAN WAY you suggest.
>He used a lot unfair methods. He behaved very european , if you want.
>

Actually, it's exactly what he did.  Whether he tried to "corner" the
market
in software or not doesn't really matter.  There have always been
alternatives
to things like PC-dos.  IE DR-dos, OS/2, etc.  Now linux is making huge
inroads with several hundred thousand users around the world.  But most
would
agree that even with all the problems inside the various windows
platforms,
they really do provide a "computing for dummies" platform.  Win95 is the
best
yet in this regard.  It notices when you install a new modem and fixes
itself
up.  Ditto for a new video device, a new SCSI disk, a new Scanner, and
so
forth.

Most people end up using it because its the best thing out there for
that
specific market.  I use unix.  I'll probably *always* use unix.  But I
also
do my own technical support.  And unix requires quite a bit of technical
support in general, compared with Win95...

If something better comes along, it only has to overcome the huge
installed
base of software for Win95.  If that "something" is win95 compatible,
and it
is obviously better, I'd bet it would sell...



>>
>>Just a reminder for all those who seriously think that Microsoft would
>>be in business for even 12 months if its customers were really
>>dissatisfied and had a serious alternative.
>
>Aha. If no alternative exists, because Microsoft stops them to exist,
>you cannot choose.


I don't see how microsoft could do this.  IE how could Gtes stop me from
writing Crafty and competing with them, supposing they had a chess
program?
IE Excel has competition, MSWord has lots of competition.  Etc..


>In germany e.g. we have Karl-May books from the
>KARL-MAY-publishing-firm.
>These books claim to be ORIGINALS but in fact the text in these books is
>CHANGED and NOT original.
>Other companies tried to sell the original text but were suddenly
>attacked by the Karl-May-publishing-firm because this company does not
>like to see competitive products. Since 1962 ANYBODY could print
>Karl-May books with original texts because the copyright is down. The
>only copyrights the Karl-May-publishing-firm has, is the copyright on
>the CHANGES !! they have done on Karl May's texts.
>
>This company throws/spams the market with their NON-ORIGINALS since 1912
>!!!
>And this great betrayal works for 85 years.
>GrandMaster Lothar Schmid (we know him from chess) is on of the owners
>of this Karl-May-publishing-firm (together with his brother).
>All the money he had earned with publishing books he has no rights to do
>so, is not HIS money but Karl-May's money, because Karl May wrote the
>texts and in his testemony he said: I want all my money to put into a
>found for writers in germany. To help poor writers not to die in
>poverty.
>Instead these guys took his texts, ignored the testemony and: are
>honorable guys in our MARKET world. WHY ?
>The existence of a company is NO guaranty that it is working legally.
>In fact, in a betraying society the existence of a company does not show
>how
>FAIR a company is, and how legal, but how UNFAIR AND ILLEGALLY a company
>works!
>
>If you want to argue FOR Microsoft because it exists, you have
>contradicted yourself.
>
>"It betrays, therefore it is !" to misuse Descartes sentence !
>
>
>
>>Amir



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