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Subject: Re: F6a v F6b Nunn 1

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 06:29:12 09/04/00

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On September 04, 2000 at 09:05:35, Chessfun wrote:

>On September 04, 2000 at 08:07:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 04, 2000 at 07:20:26, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On September 04, 2000 at 03:11:50, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 04, 2000 at 02:55:59, Didzis Cirulis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 23:54:29, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:48:44, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:14:43, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For what it's worth:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cel 433
>>>>>>>>Ponder=off
>>>>>>>>Hash 16 Mbs
>>>>>>>>F6 general.ctg
>>>>>>>>Tablebases On.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Fritz6a W16 L24 D34 = 33/74
>>>>>>>>Fritz6b W24 L16 D34 = 41/74
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's a good sign! It's clearly atleast a little bit better at blitz (unless it
>>>>>>>is because of better opening book).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They used the same book. general.ctg, then reversed and played again.
>>>>>>Clearly better after 74 games? not in my eyes.
>>>>>>Aside from which being stronger against itself don't translate into
>>>>>>being stronger against other programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But hopefully, the difference is even bigger
>>>>>>>in longer games, i.e. better knowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From what I read CB claim minimal differences between a & b.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I run a Gountlet tournament yesterday:
>>>>>60/game, 16Mb for each engine, Junior book, Celeron 500.
>>>>>F6b ws others like Hiarcs 7.32, Junior 6a, Crafty 17.11 and Fritz 5.32.
>>>>>I had to stop it to give my son a possibility to play "Heroes of Might and
>>>>>Magic", but after 4 rounds the typical result was 3-1 in favor of Fritz 6b.
>>>>>
>>>>>Didzis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>After I stopped the 5 mins I started Nunn 1 matches.
>>>>
>>>>5mins
>>>>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9
>>>>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9
>>>>
>>>>10mins Just started
>>>>
>>>>25mins playing current score
>>>>Fritz6a W5 L1 D2
>>>>Fritz6b L5 W1 D2
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>In that case, Fritz6b may be very weak in longer games. Perhaps it comes to full
>>>strength at game in 5 min, but doesn't really find better moves in a longer
>>>time. Are you sure about the above results for game in 25?
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>We should wait for more games.
>>
>>5:1(2 draws) is not a significant result.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>5mins
>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9
>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9
>
>10mins
>Fritz6a W7 L6 D7
>Fritz6b W6 L7 D7
>
>25mins playing current score
>Fritz6a W8 L2 D6
>Fritz6b W2 L8 D6
>
>Thanks.
>Sarah.
Wonderful! I think one can use common sense, intuition and discretion to realize
what this is indicating!
  So Fritz 6b at London was probably not at its best. So Shredder 5 is not such
a big catch, as Fritz 6a would have probably held it back.
S.Taylor



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