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Subject: Re: F6a v F6b Nunn 1

Author: Chessfun

Date: 06:41:50 09/04/00

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On September 04, 2000 at 09:29:12, stuart taylor wrote:

>On September 04, 2000 at 09:05:35, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On September 04, 2000 at 08:07:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 04, 2000 at 07:20:26, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 04, 2000 at 03:11:50, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 04, 2000 at 02:55:59, Didzis Cirulis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 23:54:29, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:48:44, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:14:43, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>For what it's worth:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cel 433
>>>>>>>>>Ponder=off
>>>>>>>>>Hash 16 Mbs
>>>>>>>>>F6 general.ctg
>>>>>>>>>Tablebases On.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fritz6a W16 L24 D34 = 33/74
>>>>>>>>>Fritz6b W24 L16 D34 = 41/74
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's a good sign! It's clearly atleast a little bit better at blitz (unless it
>>>>>>>>is because of better opening book).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They used the same book. general.ctg, then reversed and played again.
>>>>>>>Clearly better after 74 games? not in my eyes.
>>>>>>>Aside from which being stronger against itself don't translate into
>>>>>>>being stronger against other programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But hopefully, the difference is even bigger
>>>>>>>>in longer games, i.e. better knowledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From what I read CB claim minimal differences between a & b.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I run a Gountlet tournament yesterday:
>>>>>>60/game, 16Mb for each engine, Junior book, Celeron 500.
>>>>>>F6b ws others like Hiarcs 7.32, Junior 6a, Crafty 17.11 and Fritz 5.32.
>>>>>>I had to stop it to give my son a possibility to play "Heroes of Might and
>>>>>>Magic", but after 4 rounds the typical result was 3-1 in favor of Fritz 6b.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Didzis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>After I stopped the 5 mins I started Nunn 1 matches.
>>>>>
>>>>>5mins
>>>>>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9
>>>>>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9
>>>>>
>>>>>10mins Just started
>>>>>
>>>>>25mins playing current score
>>>>>Fritz6a W5 L1 D2
>>>>>Fritz6b L5 W1 D2
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>In that case, Fritz6b may be very weak in longer games. Perhaps it comes to full
>>>>strength at game in 5 min, but doesn't really find better moves in a longer
>>>>time. Are you sure about the above results for game in 25?
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>We should wait for more games.
>>>
>>>5:1(2 draws) is not a significant result.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>5mins
>>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9
>>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9
>>
>>10mins
>>Fritz6a W7 L6 D7
>>Fritz6b W6 L7 D7
>>
>>25mins playing current score
>>Fritz6a W8 L2 D6
>>Fritz6b W2 L8 D6
>>
>>Thanks.
>>Sarah.
>Wonderful! I think one can use common sense, intuition and discretion to realize
>what this is indicating!
>  So Fritz 6b at London was probably not at its best. So Shredder 5 is not such
>a big catch, as Fritz 6a would have probably held it back.
>S.Taylor


This 6b has nothing to do with London.
I have never seen a post stating that 6b this version was used.
AFAIK the London version would be something totally different to this.

Thanks.
Sarah.




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