Author: stuart taylor
Date: 07:23:41 09/04/00
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On September 04, 2000 at 09:41:50, Chessfun wrote: >On September 04, 2000 at 09:29:12, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On September 04, 2000 at 09:05:35, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On September 04, 2000 at 08:07:53, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 04, 2000 at 07:20:26, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 04, 2000 at 03:11:50, Chessfun wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 04, 2000 at 02:55:59, Didzis Cirulis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 23:54:29, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:48:44, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On September 03, 2000 at 21:14:43, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>For what it's worth: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cel 433 >>>>>>>>>>Ponder=off >>>>>>>>>>Hash 16 Mbs >>>>>>>>>>F6 general.ctg >>>>>>>>>>Tablebases On. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Fritz6a W16 L24 D34 = 33/74 >>>>>>>>>>Fritz6b W24 L16 D34 = 41/74 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That's a good sign! It's clearly atleast a little bit better at blitz (unless it >>>>>>>>>is because of better opening book). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They used the same book. general.ctg, then reversed and played again. >>>>>>>>Clearly better after 74 games? not in my eyes. >>>>>>>>Aside from which being stronger against itself don't translate into >>>>>>>>being stronger against other programs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But hopefully, the difference is even bigger >>>>>>>>>in longer games, i.e. better knowledge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>From what I read CB claim minimal differences between a & b. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>>>Sarah. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I run a Gountlet tournament yesterday: >>>>>>>60/game, 16Mb for each engine, Junior book, Celeron 500. >>>>>>>F6b ws others like Hiarcs 7.32, Junior 6a, Crafty 17.11 and Fritz 5.32. >>>>>>>I had to stop it to give my son a possibility to play "Heroes of Might and >>>>>>>Magic", but after 4 rounds the typical result was 3-1 in favor of Fritz 6b. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Didzis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>After I stopped the 5 mins I started Nunn 1 matches. >>>>>> >>>>>>5mins >>>>>>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9 >>>>>>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9 >>>>>> >>>>>>10mins Just started >>>>>> >>>>>>25mins playing current score >>>>>>Fritz6a W5 L1 D2 >>>>>>Fritz6b L5 W1 D2 >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>Sarah. >>>>> >>>>>In that case, Fritz6b may be very weak in longer games. Perhaps it comes to full >>>>>strength at game in 5 min, but doesn't really find better moves in a longer >>>>>time. Are you sure about the above results for game in 25? >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>>We should wait for more games. >>>> >>>>5:1(2 draws) is not a significant result. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>5mins >>>Fritz6a W4 L7 D9 >>>Fritz6b W7 L4 D9 >>> >>>10mins >>>Fritz6a W7 L6 D7 >>>Fritz6b W6 L7 D7 >>> >>>25mins playing current score >>>Fritz6a W8 L2 D6 >>>Fritz6b W2 L8 D6 >>> >>>Thanks. >>>Sarah. >>Wonderful! I think one can use common sense, intuition and discretion to realize >>what this is indicating! >> So Fritz 6b at London was probably not at its best. So Shredder 5 is not such >>a big catch, as Fritz 6a would have probably held it back. >>S.Taylor > > >This 6b has nothing to do with London. >I have never seen a post stating that 6b this version was used. >AFAIK the London version would be something totally different to this. > >Thanks. >Sarah. Oh! I don't know very much, do I! Anyway, It still seems to be markedly weaker at longer time controls. It's progressively like that. So I'm wondering if Fritz 7 will be based on 6b, or on AFAIK. S.Taylor
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