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Subject: Re: It's mate in 12

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 13:46:57 09/04/00

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On September 04, 2000 at 15:23:39, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>
>Both Q5T and Y1 experimental personalities for Rebel Century 2.0 ECTool are
>showing a ! now in their search, not simply a +. I haven't seen this ! before..
>They must be on to something but a mate in 12 is probably too deep too find,

I think it's mate in 13. I post the longest lines I found.

Good luck with Century 2 or with anything you try. I had to force moves a few
times. It would be nice to have a competent mate solver that would find the best
line in this position.

Enrique

[Event "corr"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1879.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chigorin, Mikhail"]
[Black "Yakubovich"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "5qrk/p1p1b1rp/4P2Q/1p6/5P2/8/P4P1P/B5RK w - b6 0 31"]
[PlyCount "11"]
[EventDate "1879.??.??"]

31. f3 $1 c5 (31... a6 32. f5 Bc5 33. Rg3 Be3 34. Qxe3 Qxf5 35. Rg1 h5 36. Qh6+
Qh7 37. Rg6 b4 38. Bxg7+ Rxg7 39. e7 Rxg6 40. e8=Q+ Rg8 41. Qf6+ Qg7 42. Qxh5#)
(31... Bd6 32. f5 c5 (32... Bc5 33. Rg3 Be3 34. Qxe3 Qxf5 35. Rg1 h5 36. Qh6+
Qh7 37. Rg6 c5 38. Bxg7+ Rxg7 39. e7 Rxg6 40. e8=Q+ Rg8 41. Qf6+ Qg7 42. Qxh5#)
(32... Ba3 33. Rg3 Bc1 34. Qg6 h6 35. Rh3 Qxf5 36. Qxf5 Rd8 37. Rg3 Bg5 38.
Rxg5 hxg5 39. e7 Rd1+ 40. Kg2 Rd2+ 41. Kg3 Rg2+ 42. Kxg2 b4 43. e8=Q#) 33. Rg4
Bf4 34. Qxf4 Qd8 35. Rg1 c4 36. Bd4 Qb6 37. Rxg7 Rxg7 38. Bxg7+ Kg8 39. Bh6 Qd8
40. Qg3+ Qg5 41. Qxg5+ Kh8 42. Qg7#) 32. f5 b4 33. Rg3 c4 34. Qxh7+ $1 Kxh7 35.
Rh3+ Bh4 36. Rxh4# 1-0

>Q5T
>now at 17 ply deep. The engines have to share the one processor so this may take
>quite a while because of the consecutive fail highs. This looks like a position
>for a dedicated mate-solver!
>
>There used to be a Dutch program years ago in the days of 6502 and Z80 8-bits
>processors that was a fast solver. It would probably not work on a PIII or PIV
>without a major re-write, I think it was written in assembly language. There was
>a micro-computer television course from TELEAC here in The Netherlands and you
>could buy this computer especially for the course to learn more about
>micro-computers. Nobody had heard about PCs or their clones yet. But this mate
>solver was written for an Ohio Scientific computer I believe, by P.(Piet?)
>Wiereyns. Details are hidden in the stack with "Computerschaak" issues from the
>early eighties, no idea what became of the program. Maybe we should ask Jan
>Louwman, if he knows more. But I wonder what such a program would make of this
>Chigorin-Yakubovich position on todays fast computers..
>
> Eelco



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