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Subject: Re: So did Shredder suffer from weak opening book?

Author: Shanti

Date: 22:29:16 09/04/00

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Hi

Maybe there is no consensus since at least Uri thinks otherwise but I think the
vast majority (including Millennum GmbH) think so.

From http://www.computerchess.com/news_e.html#18 :

"As consequence the new opening book by the Italian specialist Sandro Necchi
became the subject of controversial discussions. It's fair to state that he had
only a few months time to prepare the new tournament book. So certain holes
being uncovered by so-called "killer variations” could hardly be avoided. Until
the release of the new program version MILLENNIUM SHREDDER 5 (being scheduled
before Christmas) there is time enough to optimise its opening library and to
underline the top position of Stefan Meyer-Kahlen's program which has won not
less than three out of the last four world champion titles."

Shredder got inferior position not only in the eyes of a GM but in the eyes of
Shredder itself. You can Shredder's evaluation after the opening and see.

Shanti

On September 04, 2000 at 03:03:31, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 03, 2000 at 21:55:01, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>Is this the clear consensus, that Shredder got bad positions because of less
>>good opening book, but if not for that, it would have been champ even more
>>convincingly? (atleast in quality of wins, if not quantity).
>>S.Taylor
>
>No
>There was no consensus about it.
>
>The writer of shredder's opening book claimed that shredder had the best opening
>book.
>
>For example I remember that he claimed that the line
>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.f3 gives 94% result for shredder.
>
>This line is not so good for other programs.
>
>I do not say that shredder had the best book but
>deciding only based on the positions out of book is wrong.
>
>It is possible that shredder did not ger good positions out of book but got
>positions that it knows how to play.
>
>It is better to get an equal position out of book and win than to get a better
>position out of book and lose or draw.
>
>Uri



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