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Subject: Re: How many possible moves in one position?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:58:08 12/08/97

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On December 08, 1997 at 16:15:11, Rémi Coulom wrote:

>
>On December 08, 1997 at 04:10:05, Walter Ravenek wrote:
>
>>The maximum number of legal moves in a position I have across is 215,
>>which is the number of white moves in the following position:
>>
>>4Q1qk/1Q4RN/3Q3N/Q4Q1B/2Q4B/4Q3/1Q4R1/3Q3K w - -
>>
>>In Arthur I use an upper bound 255, which seems quite safe to me.
>>
>>Walter Ravenek
>
>Here is an old article from rgcc :
>
>sadlowsk@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Bernhard Sadlowski) wrote:
>
>>1. no promoted pieces, without promotion moves: 109 white moves (W.Cross 1967)

              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00  49.05   Re7
                1     0.00   Mate   Ne6#
                1->   0.03   Mate   Ne6#
                2     0.03   Mate   Ne6#
                2->   0.09   Mate   Ne6#



>>2. no promoted pieces                         : 144 white moves (J.Ban 1960)


              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.03  24.37   Qb2
                1     0.19  41.21   bxc8=Q Rxe5 fxg8=Q Nxb6 h8=Q Rxd5
fxg3
                                    exd2
                1     0.23  42.08   dxc8=Q Nxb6 fxe8=Q
                1     0.34  42.14   fxe8=Q Nxb6 bxc8=Q
                1     0.52  42.25   bxa8=Q Rxa8 fxe8=Q Bxh7 Rxa8 exd2
                1->   0.74  42.25   bxa8=Q Rxa8 fxe8=Q Bxh7 Rxa8 exd2
                2     0.91     ++   bxa8=Q!!
                2     1.26  43.96   bxa8=Q Bxf7 dxc8=Q Rxc8 Nfxe3+ Kxf2
                                    Rxc8
                2     1.83  Mat02   Nf4+ Kxf2 Qxe3#
                2->   2.03  Mat02   Nf4+ Kxf2 Qxe3#


>>3. with promoted pieces                       : 218 white moves (Dickins 1968)

              time surplus  57.74  time limit 30.99 (3:05)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00   Mate   Rgxh2#
                1->   0.11   Mate   Rgxh2#
                2     0.11   Mate   Rgxh2#
                2->   0.39   Mate   Rgxh2#



>>4. with all 32 pieces                         :  99 white moves (HH.Cross 1946)

              time surplus   1:27  time limit 31.53 (3:09)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     6.29   1.41   Rxh8 Qxd8 Rxd8 Rxg1 Bxh1 Bxe5 Nxe5
                                    Rxh1 cxb3 dxe2
                1    18.87   4.78   Bxa8 Rxd8 Bxa1
                1    19.43   Mate   Qxb6#
                1->  19.62   Mate   Qxb6#
                2    19.70   Mate   Qxb6#
                2->  19.85   Mate   Qxb6#



>
>>(records taken from the book "Maerchenschach" by Anthony Dickins)
>
>>1. 5k2/2K5/3N1B2/P1NB4/6Q1/4R3/P1PP1P1P/1R6 w - - 0 1
>>2. n1r1r1b1/1P1P1P1P/1Q6/3NBNK1/R7/4p1p1/3PBPkP/2R5 w - - 0 1
>>3. 3Q4/1Q4Q1/4Q3/2Q4R/Q4Q2/3Q4/1Q4Rp/1K1BBNNk w - - 0 1
>>4. q2Q3r/n6R/kpB1N1K1/p1p1Bppp/1PN3P1/1n1pp1b1/P1PPPP1P/r5Rb w - - 0 1
>
>>Many chess programs will crash if you setup most of these positions (esp.
>>with the positions 2 and 3).
>
>>Bernhard
>>--
>>Bernhard Sadlowski
>><sadlowsk@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de>
>
>Rémi


at least I can confirm mine works correctly with 'em.  #4 was
interesting
as it represents the longest 1 ply search time I've ever seen.  :)



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