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Subject: Re: Crafty refuses draw request

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:07:18 09/06/00

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On September 06, 2000 at 07:25:12, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 06, 2000 at 06:14:29, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On September 05, 2000 at 10:32:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 05, 2000 at 01:18:55, Mark Longridge wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was playing crafty the other day and white had a pawn on h7, and a knight on
>>>>g5, black's king is in the corner, and black has only it's king.
>>>>
>>>>There's absolutely no way black can win with just a king, but it STILL REFUSES
>>>>A DRAW request!
>>>>
>>>>It just seemed very odd ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>It mainly depends on how you have things set up.  And even if it is set up
>>>correctly, there are 'rules' that have to be satisfied before it will accept
>>>a draw.  IE it has to believe it is a draw.  It also has to get a draw score
>>>back from the search for 5 consecutive moves (3 for GM players) before it will
>>>accept or offer a draw.
>>>
>>>Just giving the position doesn't provide enough information...
>>>
>>>The log.nnn file is also needed.
>>
>>The position provides all the relevant information.
>>
>>It's your problem, not the opponent's to make sure your program behaves
>>reasonably.
>>
>>Asking the opponent to provide internal crafty parameters and logs is not
>>reasonable.
>>
>>Amir
>
>I agree.
>
>Without looking at the logfile the rules of getting a draw score for 5 or 3
>consecutive moves can be illogical rules in some cases.
>
>It means (if I understand correctly) that Crafty is not going to accept a draw
>in the relevant position(assuming it had a losing position 3 moves ago).
>
>I do not say that Crafty should accept a draw after one draw score but it should
>accept a draw when it has only a king.
>
>Uri


It doesn't have to get a drawscore _only_.  The test is <= drawscore.  But it
won't offer/accept draws too early in the game...



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