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Subject: Re: Databases of Games Annotated For Ordinary Players?

Author: Robert Pawlak

Date: 16:36:07 09/06/00

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On September 06, 2000 at 17:53:05, Riazuddeen Syed wrote:

>On September 06, 2000 at 00:36:16, Steve wrote:
>
>>     I was wondering if there are any databases consisting of games annotated
>>for ordinary players -- not games annotated by grandmasters for other
>>grandmasters (which is what the databases in programs like Fritz seem to
>>contain), but games annotated by GMs and IMs like Daniel King, Robert Byrne,
>>Jeremy Silman, et al. which discuss plans and ideas in a way that class players
>>like myself can understand?  It wouldn't be necessary to have a million games
>>--even 30,000 or 40,000 games, providing a wide selection of openings, would be
>>adequate for the purpose, since the purpose is to help players learn how to play
>>particular openings and carry them through into the middlegame and endgame --
>>not to provide them with the latest up-to-date theory required by professionals.

Well, Chessmentor contains alot of stuff like this, only it's not a database,
and most of the modules are not keyed to particular openings.

>> It seems to me there must already be a rich store of such games in the
>>collected archives of periodicals like Chess Life, Inside Chess, Chess, etc.
>>Perhaps they could even collaborate on creating such a database and share the
>>profits.

Look at some of the stuff that Convekta is releasing, like their famous players
collections. While most of annotations are languageless, there are informant
symbols describing plans, etc. Some of the material previously appeared in print
too.

>>
>>     As it is, to look for games annotated in a periodical like Chess Life, one
>>has to deal with fairly clumsy indexes (e.g., the index for a given year might
>>list 50 French Defenses and you have to check each one to see what variation was
>>being discussed and whether it was annotated at all).  The ability to do a
>>position search in a database and immediately come up with a series of
>>well-annotated games in a particular variation would be a great convenience, and
>>certainly something that I would be interested in purchasing.  I recognize that
>>specialized opening books do this to some extent, but only for a single opening.
>>
>>     So to return to my original question, does anything like this exist, and if
>>not, are there others who would be interested in such a product?

Ok, if you want material based on a specific opening, the Chessbase CD by Jim
Hebert on the Benoni is quite good. There are lots of text comments, but this
opening is not for the squeamish.

Also, I think you would like the Chessbase CDs Strategy volumes I and II, but
they are not really organized by openings, just by positional and material
features.

>
>Looks like a great idea to me.I have seen some books with annotations which are
>very useful, especially of Chernev. But so far i haven't seen any software which
>addresses that issue. I am sure it will make great bucks if it came out in the
>streets.

It's coming, just wait...

>If you ever went through the Chessmasters Josh games with multimedia annotations
>you will be amazed and dazzled by it. You like to listen and go through games
>like that. But unfortunately I haven't seen anything like that in the market.

I agree, the Josh stuff is very good. If I were the other SW companies, I would
be looking at this.

>Let me know if you find anything intersting.
>I also understand you are trying to find opening moves in some kind of software
>with explanations, and i have been looking for it too, but i have'nt  got into
>anything. Hope someone who knows a lot more than I do can shed some light into
>this.

See the above notes.

>Thanks and goodluck!


Bob P.




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