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Subject: Re: Beta Testing Compensation

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:21:59 09/08/00

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On September 08, 2000 at 10:03:00, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On September 08, 2000 at 09:49:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 2000 at 08:42:50, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On September 08, 2000 at 08:36:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 08, 2000 at 07:38:18, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 07, 2000 at 18:13:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The purpose is to help the programmer to produce a better version.
>>>>>>In my case I got only the beta software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The beta that I got is better than the previous commercial program but weaker
>>>>>>than the commercial program of today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know if it is always the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is definitely not, at least in my experience. I always got the final,
>>>>>commercial release of the program I tested. If the programmer asks me to beta
>>>>>test his program, I do and later on he doesn't send me the final copy I would
>>>>>take it not so well. But, as I said, it has never happened.
>>>>
>>>>In my case when I tested Junior4.9 I got only .dll files from Amir Ban
>>>>
>>>>.dll file was enough for the beta version that were 16 bits but was not enough
>>>>for the final version that was 32 bit.
>>>>
>>>>I know that thorsten czub also got the same 16 bit version and could not get the
>>>>32 bit version because his bad relations with chessbase.
>>>>
>>>>I did not attack chessbase like thorsten but I also criticized chessbase for the
>>>>secret autoplayer at that time and I did not think to try to ask chessbase to
>>>>give me the 32 bit interface.
>>>>
>>>>The final product was of Chessbase and Amir and I tested only for Amir.
>>>>I think that your case is different because you tested for chessbase.
>>>
>>>Not really. I tested much more for Rebel, Tiger, Hiarcs and others, and I always
>>>got the final version. I understood that this was always done to all
>>>beta-testers. Your case is unfortunate and, I hope, unique.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>I did not say that you tested only for chessbase.
>>You did not work for one programmer and this was my point when I said that you
>>tested for chessbase.
>>
>>My reasons for testing Junior were different than your reasons for testing
>>programs.
>
>I doubt it.
>
>>I tested Junior because I wanted to help Amir to develop a better program.
>
>Off course, Uri. This is always the case for all beta-testers. What else.

The difference is that I wanted to help only Junior when beta testers who test a
lot of programs want to help many programmers.

I am also not sure that wanting to help the programmer is the reason of all beta
testers.

I believe that there are beta testers who want to get the new programs without
paying money for them.
I believe that part of the beta testers will not continue to test if they know
that they get only the beta and not the commercial version.

The reason that I stopped to test Junior was different in my case.

Uri



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