Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 09:19:13 09/08/00
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On September 08, 2000 at 10:43:16, Peter Davison wrote: >On September 08, 2000 at 09:21:07, Mogens Larsen wrote: > >>On September 08, 2000 at 08:08:24, Peter Davison wrote: >> >>>Who is "we"? >> >>Maybe all those who are not you? >> >>Mogens. > >Yes. Exactly so. And what can I deduce from your piece of absolute honesty? > >That "we", "you", "me", "who" is far more important here than any idea. > >In a forum, ideas are what count. Ideas are tossed around. The unwritten rules >are that an idea is not responsible for the people that believe in it, an idea >is not owned, an idea does not connect to the ego of its originator, the >mouthpiece for an idea doesn't feel personally bad if the idea is somehow >disproven. > >A club, on the other hand, is a place for relationships. Members enter clubs, >make friends, find someone to send them emails, get less lonely, supposedly >cooperate, although here the usual procedure is to provoke random personal >zero-sum games as you yourself have shown recently with Villegas and Silver, >presumably through boredom? > >Originally, this place was set up to be an ideas forum. An ideas forum attracts >intellectuals, people with ideas. The "who" of it was supposedly irrelevant, one >of the favourite expressions was "ad hominem". This forum was setup for people to talk about computer chess in its widest form not limited to new ideas only. >Now the "who" is supremely important. Ad hominem rules. Does it not? And the few >guys with ideas and the courage to propound them? Gone. Every one. Who is every one? I remember Chris W. left. Pity. >Apart from observing the sillyness, and there is a limit from what one can learn >from watching soap opera repeats, there is nothing of interest here. The limited >computer chess stuff could be on a FAQ. The kindergarden programmer group might >as well be on an email list, or else refer to the non-existent FAQ or published >sources. Is there any other benefit that couldn't be served by a chat room for >the sad and lonely? Pity you dislike this forum. Ed >So long.
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