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Subject: Re: Rebel vs Ferret on ICS

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 10:48:00 12/10/97

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On December 09, 1997 at 18:37:37, Don Dailey wrote:

>I never seriously considered playing my program Cilkchess on the
>internet
>for these very reasons.  It's probably a good thing if all you really
>want is to get in some games in and find weaknesses, but I get very
>uncomfortable with ambiguious results.

This was frustrating to read, given that it was prompted by something
that I wrote.

My program has been on the net for three years, and having it there has
helped me a lot.  I wish that you'd get yours on the net as well, and
would hope that others would also do this.

I get a wide variety of opponents.  Sometimes you knew exactly who you
are playing, and get a good idea of how you stand against that account.
Other times you don't know what bet you -- it could have been Roman
playing on a ghost accounts, it could have been another computer plus a
passive operator, it could have been a human assisted by a computer, or
it could have been some fish who found a  hole in your program.  So you
get a wide variety of losses to learn from.

For about a month before Paris I looked at every game, every day.  Since
then I've taken a break, but I have to catch up.  I have 1114 games to
look at (at least 260 with IM's or GM's, and a couple hundred with other
computers) , including 196 losses or draws.  This will take a while, but
I'm going to look at each of those games, starting with the losses, of
course.  I'm sure I will plug some holes in the book, discover some
middlegame mistakes, and get some ideas for more endgame knowledge.

I think this is very worthwhile, considering that all I had to do to get
this data is connect to the net and wait.

How do you get games?  Do you auto-test?  Do you have strong players
that play a lot of games with your program?

bruce



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