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Subject: Re: Rebel vs Ferret on ICS

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 12:35:23 12/10/97

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On December 10, 1997 at 13:48:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On December 09, 1997 at 18:37:37, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>>I never seriously considered playing my program Cilkchess on the
>>internet
>>for these very reasons.  It's probably a good thing if all you really
>>want is to get in some games in and find weaknesses, but I get very
>>uncomfortable with ambiguious results.
>
>This was frustrating to read, given that it was prompted by something
>that I wrote.
>
>My program has been on the net for three years, and having it there has
>helped me a lot.  I wish that you'd get yours on the net as well, and
>would hope that others would also do this.
>
>I get a wide variety of opponents.  Sometimes you knew exactly who you
>are playing, and get a good idea of how you stand against that account.
>Other times you don't know what bet you -- it could have been Roman
>playing on a ghost accounts, it could have been another computer plus a
>passive operator, it could have been a human assisted by a computer, or
>it could have been some fish who found a  hole in your program.  So you
>get a wide variety of losses to learn from.
>
>For about a month before Paris I looked at every game, every day.  Since
>then I've taken a break, but I have to catch up.  I have 1114 games to
>look at (at least 260 with IM's or GM's, and a couple hundred with other
>computers) , including 196 losses or draws.  This will take a while, but
>I'm going to look at each of those games, starting with the losses, of
>course.  I'm sure I will plug some holes in the book, discover some
>middlegame mistakes, and get some ideas for more endgame knowledge.

Could you post a summary of what you discovered in the lost games. I
don't mean posting the pgn's but stuff like how many duplicate opening
busts where encountered.
>
>I think this is very worthwhile, considering that all I had to do to get
>this data is connect to the net and wait.
>
>How do you get games?  Do you auto-test?  Do you have strong players
>that play a lot of games with your program?
>
>bruce



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