Author: Eelco de Groot
Date: 14:55:59 09/08/00
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On September 08, 2000 at 14:04:35, Peter Davison wrote: >On September 08, 2000 at 11:44:18, Eelco de Groot wrote: > >>On September 07, 2000 at 12:31:10, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On September 07, 2000 at 12:15:08, Peter Davison wrote: >>> >>>>The forum referred to _is_ the people. It is not a forum, it is a club. >>>>Different. >>> >>>Correct, but implied in my message. >>> >>>>If you said the people were inclined already to be disinterested in everything >>>>unless there was something to be gained, that the 'gain' took the form of >>>>positive advantage for oneself, or negative disadvantage for the 'opponent', in >>>>classical chess zero-sum style, then I would agree with you. >>> >>>That was what I was trying to say in not so many words. >>> >>>>If you see this, then why are you here? >>> >>>For the same reasons as you are, I imagine. Observing (and laughing). >>> >>>Mogens. >> >>I hope that I know the both of you just a little bit better than that you both >>didn't really mean to sound so cynical, shallow and negative about the people >>here, their intentions and their capacity for independant thought. If not then >>as just an average CCC-member I tend to feel insulted by the tenor of this >>sub-thread. >> >>Thank you very much, >>Eelco > >From the changed thread title (and some other stuff elsewhere) it appears >there's confusion as to what a "two-player zero-sum game" actually is. > >From that one can deduce there would be confusion about what is a "non-zero-sum >game". > > >This bit > >">>>If you see this, then why are you here? >>> >>>For the same reasons as you are, I imagine. Observing (and laughing). >" >is a positive non-zero outcome. To Mogens's eternal horror no doubt, it >indicates a little personal bond. He is dissatisfied also. You are still here then! I'm glad about that. I only recently found out in Mogens' excellent forum at his http://home1.stofanet.dk/Moq/ that Thorsten was suspended from here months ago. I'm sure it was not entirely without some provocation on Thorsten's part but I can't remember there having been any notice about his suspension. At least the last time the author of CSTal was suspended - at least the last time that I know of.. - Andrew Williams told us why. Provocative as he can be I would like to see Thorsten come back sometime. By the way I actually thought for a while Martin Hasse was Thorsten but Chessfun seemed to know better. These aliases *can* be rather confusing, you know. I wish we could do without them entirely. Don't you agree? About the "dissatisfied" bit: I just would like to see a more positive outlook sometimes on the typical CCC-member here as we are all trying to make this forum work. There is something heroic about being chess-pawns by the way. They get sacrificed all the time just so the Queen can mate the King, there is this theme of pawns moving up to a higher class through heroic action and travels and finally becoming a queen, very liberal idea really it is. Also pawns having to work together more than any other piece on the board to be effective, pawns just because they are so limited that they can't retrace their steps every little wrong or right move made can decide a game . They are the real Heroes of Chess! Regards, Eelco
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