Author: Paulo Soares
Date: 22:03:05 09/08/00
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On September 08, 2000 at 12:11:22, Andreas Stabel wrote: >On September 08, 2000 at 06:36:52, Paulo Soares wrote: > >>On September 08, 2000 at 01:05:22, Howard Exner wrote: >> >>>A nice win by Gelfand. >>>3k4/2pP2b1/3p2P1/1K1P1BP1/8/8/8/8 w - - >>> >>> >>> id Gelfand,B - Ye Jiangchuan; bm Kc6; >>> >>>In the game Gelfand played Kc6 and Ye Jiangchuan resigned. >>>The winning technique as explained on Kasparov's site explains >>>that white's bishop must go to either a4 or e8, allowing the white king to >>>penetrate via the f5 square. Both work nicely, yet it made me wonder if computer >>>programs will discover this winning technique. How do programs >>>fair here? The theme of first protecting the d7 pawn with the king, then >>>with the bishop(on a4 or e8), and finally marching the king around to the >>>kingside may prove difficult for programs. >> >>I analyzed the final position with program help and I didn't get to see the >>win, and I got to think that Gelfand had won in the time(clock). Only now, >>after reading your post, I got to understand the position and I could evaluate >>Gelfand brilliant idea in this endgame. I think this position it's hard for >>programs. >> >>Paulo Soares, from Brazil > >I made the following eight moves which, as far as I can see, black can do >nothing to stop: >1. Kc6 Bf6 2. Bc2 Bg7 3. Ba4 Ba1 4. Kb7 Bg7 5. Ka6 Bd4 6. Ka5 Bg7 >7. Kb4 Bd4 8. Kc4 > >and in the position after 8. Kc4 crafty 17.13 gives the following analysis: >18-> 3:32 -11.91 8. ... Bg7 9. Bc6 Be5 10. Kd3 Bg7 11. > Ke4 Bc3 12. Kf5 Ke7 13. d8=Q+ Kxd8 > 14. Ke6 Kc8 15. Kf7 Be1 16. g7 Kb8 > 17. g8=Q+ Ka7 18. Qa8+ Kb6 19. Qa1 > Bb4 20. Qd4+ Bc5 21. Qxc5+ Kxc5 > >which to me seems pretty conclusive. > >Regards >Andreas Stabel You showed clearly as a program can help. When a program is used to help in the analyses , it is obvious, the player also has to collaborate, but I didn't get to evaluate the position correctly. Paulo
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