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Subject: Re: initial position again...

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 23:13:19 09/08/00

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On September 08, 2000 at 19:05:20, Antonio Dieguez wrote:

>just for fun, can you do a search with your program in the initial position?
>
>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
>
>here is for amyan, unrealistic evals? 1/3 of a pawn just for one piece more
>developed hum... may be better something a bit exponential?
>
>[2] -0.01      87  e2e4 e7e5
>[3] +0.35     426  e2e4 g8f6 b1c3
>[4] -0.01    2021  d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6
>[5] +0.32    7746  e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
>[6] +0.12   24010  e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 f1c4 b8c6
>[7] +0.30   63896  e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 d2d4 e5d4 f3d4
>[8] +0.16  282830  e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 f1c4 f6e4 d2d3 e4d6 f3e5
>[9] +0.27 1086340  e2e4 e7e6 b1c3 g8f6 g1e2 f8b4 e4e5 f6d5 d2d4
>
>just me.

Theoretically it should be about 1/6th of a pawn. If White is 1/3rd of a pawn
better than "even", then Black is 1/3rd of a pawn worse than "even" or in other
words, White is 2/3rds of a pawn better than Black, which can't be right.

With White being 1/6th of a pawn better than "even", then Black is 1/6th of a
pawn worse than even, so now White is now 1/3rd of a pawn better than Black,
which is what you would expect. I remember some guy on ICC reported .17 with one
of the commercial programs, which is consistent with 1/6th of a pawn.

With the eval oscillating with odd or even depth, you should be getting a ½
tempo better on odd ply and zero on even ply. You're showing instead about 1
tempo better on even ply and about a ½ tempo better on odd ply.

All this assumes a pawn is worth 3 tempos, but some would say it is worth only
2½ pawns. Take your pick.



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