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Subject: Re: Moderation this forum is not a zero-sum game

Author: Peter Davison

Date: 03:17:37 09/09/00

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On September 08, 2000 at 18:46:18, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On September 08, 2000 at 17:55:59, Eelco de Groot wrote:
>
>>You are still here then! I'm glad about that. I only recently found out in
>>Mogens' excellent forum at his http://home1.stofanet.dk/Moq/ that Thorsten was
>>suspended from here months ago. I'm sure it was not entirely without some
>>provocation on Thorsten's part but I can't remember there having been any notice
>>about his suspension. At least the last time the author of CSTal was suspended -
>>at least the last time that I know of.. - Andrew Williams told us why.
>>Provocative as he can be I would like to see Thorsten come back sometime. By the
>>way I actually thought for a while Martin Hasse was Thorsten but Chessfun seemed
>>to know better. These aliases *can* be rather confusing, you know. I wish we
>>could do without them entirely. Don't you agree?
>
>You could try comparing the e-mail of say Christian Pike here and the one for
>Thorsten Czub at my forum and look for similarities. When that is said, I hope
>they would consider lifting the suspension,

AFAIK Thorsten has been banned so many times now (three or more?) for nothing
more than having strong opinions and holding to them. Worse, the first ban on
Thorsten looked more like an ambush on him than anything else.

Thorsten's initial reaction to his ban was to say ok, I'll be back in a few
months. But, gradually, as the ban count mounted, his attitude changed away from
feeling cooperative here. I think now he just takes the view that the 'powers
that be' here are just plain stupid.

And why 'lift the suspension'? You know perfectly well that if he returned it
would only be a matter of time before the calls to ban him (whoever and wherever
they come from) would start again. He'ld be banned aagin.

Its a systemic problem. Something is wrong with this place. Thorsten is one of
the stars of computer chess. Your group keeps throwing him off. Ban those with
strong opinions and what do you get? A place with no opinions. Or a place with
one opinion. Stupid.




>if there really is one, so that all
>this alias business could be reduced, at least to a certain extent. I don't see
>the point as it's easy to circumvent with very little ingenuity. So what if
>someone wants to ramble about pawns, beans, prawns or zero-sum games. There's no
>obligation to read every post.
>
>Mogens.



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