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Subject: Re: Moderation this forum is not a zero-sum game

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 04:13:49 09/09/00

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On September 09, 2000 at 06:17:37, Peter Davison wrote:

>On September 08, 2000 at 18:46:18, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 2000 at 17:55:59, Eelco de Groot wrote:
>>
>>>You are still here then! I'm glad about that. I only recently found out in
>>>Mogens' excellent forum at his http://home1.stofanet.dk/Moq/ that Thorsten was
>>>suspended from here months ago. I'm sure it was not entirely without some
>>>provocation on Thorsten's part but I can't remember there having been any notice
>>>about his suspension. At least the last time the author of CSTal was suspended -
>>>at least the last time that I know of.. - Andrew Williams told us why.
>>>Provocative as he can be I would like to see Thorsten come back sometime. By the
>>>way I actually thought for a while Martin Hasse was Thorsten but Chessfun seemed
>>>to know better. These aliases *can* be rather confusing, you know. I wish we
>>>could do without them entirely. Don't you agree?
>>
>>You could try comparing the e-mail of say Christian Pike here and the one for
>>Thorsten Czub at my forum and look for similarities. When that is said, I hope
>>they would consider lifting the suspension,
>
>AFAIK Thorsten has been banned so many times now (three or more?) for nothing
>more than having strong opinions and holding to them. Worse, the first ban on
>Thorsten looked more like an ambush on him than anything else.
>
>Thorsten's initial reaction to his ban was to say ok, I'll be back in a few
>months. But, gradually, as the ban count mounted, his attitude changed away from
>feeling cooperative here. I think now he just takes the view that the 'powers
>that be' here are just plain stupid.
>
>And why 'lift the suspension'? You know perfectly well that if he returned it
>would only be a matter of time before the calls to ban him (whoever and wherever
>they come from) would start again. He'ld be banned aagin.
>
>Its a systemic problem. Something is wrong with this place. Thorsten is one of
>the stars of computer chess. Your group keeps throwing him off. Ban those with
>strong opinions and what do you get? A place with no opinions. Or a place with
>one opinion. Stupid.
>
>
>
>
>>if there really is one, so that all
>>this alias business could be reduced, at least to a certain extent. I don't see
>>the point as it's easy to circumvent with very little ingenuity. So what if
>>someone wants to ramble about pawns, beans, prawns or zero-sum games. There's no
>>obligation to read every post.
>>
>>Mogens.


There is always a thin red line marking the boundary between strong opinions and
obsessive emotions and/or intolerance of certain programs or people.  I believe
that Thorsten has crossed that line lots of times.  To have the mind excessively
preoccupied with a single emotion or topic, the way Thorsten's mind seems to be
working, is difficult to accomodate in a forum of this type.

I do hope that you too will realise the existence of this thin red line that
enables a decent exchange of ideas.

***  Djordje




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