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Subject: Re: Gelfand Position from World Cup

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 15:25:56 09/09/00

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On September 09, 2000 at 16:26:25, Howard Exner wrote:

>On September 09, 2000 at 16:08:09, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>On September 09, 2000 at 05:21:56, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>
>>>Your analyses are correct. I read now at KC site that GM Shipov analyzes all
>>>games in real time, therefore he made a mistake on Be8.
>>>This endgame was fantastic.
>>
>>I wonder if this below position is solvable by some programs?
>>bm is Kb7 with the King march over to the kingside.
>
>Here is the correct diagram
>
>[D]3k4/2pP2b1/2Kp2P1/3P2P1/B25/8/8/8 w - -
>
>>
>>It does illustrate nicely the difference between human and machine
>>in their approach to solving certain positions. A human will in a sense work
>>backwards, visualizing that the king must penetrate to the f5,e6,g6 area
>>in order to win. A machine starts from the initial position and starts winding
>>its way through a maze of variations, perhaps hitting upon a winning line.

Crafty 17.13

               23     1:40     ++   1. Kb7!!
               23     2:10   3.53   1. Kb7 Ba1 2. Ka6 Bg7 3. Ka5 Ba1 4.
                                    Kb4 Bb2 5. Kc4 Ke7 6. Kd3 Be5 7. Ke4
                                    Kd8 8. Kf5 Ke7 9. d8=Q+ Kxd8 10. Ke6
                                    c6 11. dxc6 Bc3 12. Kxd6 Bb4+ 13. Ke6
                                    Kc7
               23->   2:13   3.53   1. Kb7 Ba1 2. Ka6 Bg7 3. Ka5 Ba1 4.
                                    Kb4 Bb2 5. Kc4 Ke7 6. Kd3 Be5 7. Ke4
                                    Kd8 8. Kf5 Ke7 9. d8=Q+ Kxd8 10. Ke6
                                    c6 11. dxc6 Bc3 12. Kxd6 Bb4+ 13. Ke6
                                    Kc7




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