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Subject: Re: HTML output with CB 8.0

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 06:21:15 09/11/00

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On September 11, 2000 at 05:52:58, Frederic Friedel wrote:

>On September 11, 2000 at 05:36:33, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>>BTW Sune sent me a nifty little database I will test CB8 on.
>>>And hey - why doesn't my tablebase engine pop up in the engines list? BUG BUG
>>>BUG!!!
>
>>Ain't no bug.  It's there, whirring and probing.  Just try endgames with your
>>engines in the background.  And if you keep shouting "BUG, BUG..." I'm gonna
>>call the bugbusters.  Watch out.
>>
>>
>
>Hi Djordje, back on the trail? I didn't understand what a "tablesbase engine" is
>and when it should pop up. I have my TBs on hard disk (I got myself an extra 20
>Gig for DM 249, and Win2000 did a great job recognising and partitioning it),
>but CB8 seems to get the results without consulting them. I'm entering positions
>like
>
>3k1r2/8/8/4RP2/5K2/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>(wKf4,Re5,Pf5/bKd8,Rf8)
>
>and get instant analysis:
>
>1.Kg5
>+-  (#29)    Depth: 6/6   00:00:00, tb=21
>(Friedel, ChessBase 11.09.2000)
>
>I know that CB8 is consulting the TBs (it records 21 seeks), but there is no
>detectable HD activity. So it has some kind of very efficient caching, or it
>looks into the TBs after I enter the position and before I fire up an engine
>(actually impossible, because it's the engine that does the lookup), or the hard
>disk is super fast and super quiet, so that 21 seeks don't even produce an LED
>flash.

Frederic, the pop up that Jeroen mentioned is probably supposed to be the old
tablebase engine, which appears to be gone in the newer version.  Was on display
in the "old" CB7 labelled as "start CD ROM 1-4" or smth similar.  At least
that's what I think.  And, BTW, you seem to have a very mentalistic
representation of what goes on when you start your CB8.  It simply cannot start
the analysis by itself unless there is an engine running in the background.  You
seem to have apportioned way too much to some "deus ex machina" inside CB8...
but that is exactly what I do and accounts for much of our seemingly
inexplicable attachment to computer chess.  You know, the childish image of
little men doing the thinking and playing chess :)

"The whirring and probing" that I mentioned was only a metaphor -- my HD, which
is a paltry 15 gig, does not whirr or probe either or I can't hear it...

***  Djordje



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