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Subject: Re: Battle of the Crowns -- current results

Author: pavel

Date: 20:12:53 09/12/00

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On September 12, 2000 at 17:11:59, Eddie wrote:

>On September 12, 2000 at 16:17:01, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2000 at 15:41:29, Eddie wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>Thx Dann,
>>>
>>>LGoliath winning the Four Crowns Division?  Is that vers. 29a ?
>>
>>Crafty v17.11 (Eugene Nalimov compiled)
>>Little Goliath Gold Version 2.8
>>
>>>I'm just
>>>wondering here, cuz  Crafty rules over LG here when I match them up ...
>>
>>Crafty has not even played against LG yet.  Here are the individual crosstables
>>for those two programs:
>>
>>(1) LGoliath                  :  24 (+ 14,=  9,-  1), 77.1 %
>>
>>Bringer                       :   4 (+  1,=  2,-  1), 50.0 %
>>Francesca                     :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>>SOS                           :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>>Yace                          :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>>ZChess                        :   4 (+  4,=  0,-  0), 100.0 %
>>Comet                         :   4 (+  0,=  4,-  0), 50.0 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Crafty                    :  24 (+ 10,= 10,-  4), 62.5 %
>>
>>Amy                           :   4 (+  0,=  2,-  2), 25.0 %
>>Gromit2                       :   4 (+  2,=  2,-  0), 75.0 %
>>TCBishop                      :   4 (+  2,=  2,-  0), 75.0 %
>>Bringer                       :   4 (+  2,=  1,-  1), 62.5 %
>>SOS                           :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>>Comet                         :   4 (+  1,=  2,-  1), 50.0 %
>>
>>>seriously Crafty has no problems with LG on my system ....  anyway thanks a lot,
>>>just a bit confused as to these results!    :))  Take care ....
>>
>>LG 2.8 at long time controls looks very, very strong so far.  As you will notice
>>from my original posting, the ELO error is still huge.  We are only 1/2 way done
>>with the 4 crown division, so there could still be large shake-ups in the final
>>standings from what we see now.
>>
>>In a single 4 game match, you can see some very strange results.  Look how Amy
>>handed crafty its hat.  But if I ran one hundred games, I strongly suspect we
>>would see a different result between those two engines.
>
>Dann,
>
>Thanks for this crosstable update!   It's very interesting to see these results.
> I think Crafty is playing like a true gentleman, to allow Amy to have a plus 2
>score, is befuddling <is this a word?> to me ....
>
>Crafty takes this little lady Amy to bed all the time on my system here, the
>little lady, even tho we love her dearly, resigns passionately to Sir Crafty all
>the time!  <wink>   Like .95% or higher   It must just be on my system .....
>
>Anyway, it looks as if the battles will rage on .....  nothing personal here,
>but if Crafty don't win it all I will be very surprised ....   thanks again,
>take care .....


if crafty doesnt win I wont be surprise.........
coz I believe the strength differance between crafty and other strong wnboard
engines is probably around 30-40 elo. and at that differance anything can
happen. as you can see the error margin (in this tourny) is reasonably high....

crafty getting smacked by Amy is not a new story,
here is stats for Amy in my tourny..


(6) amy                       :  98 (+ 34,= 19,- 45), 44.4 %

lg                            :  18 (+  6,=  5,-  7), 47.2 %
crafty                        :  15 (+  8,=  2,-  5), 60.0 %
tcb                           :  12 (+  6,=  1,-  5), 54.2 %
anmon                         :  12 (+  4,=  3,-  5), 45.8 %
yace                          :  20 (+  3,=  3,- 14), 22.5 %
sos                           :  10 (+  4,=  1,-  5), 45.0 %
wbnimzo2000b                  :  11 (+  3,=  4,-  4), 45.5 %


I have also seen in other winboard tournaments in winboard firum that crafty
getting smacked my Amy..
Amy is not a bad program at all........its a *very* interesting program IMO.
I wonder if the author is still working on it...

here is the cross table of my tourny..



    Program                        Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

  1 wbnimzo2000b                 : 2523   60  81    82    68.9 %   2385   23.2 %
  2 yace                         : 2414   69  57   100    52.0 %   2400   24.0 %
  3 crafty                       : 2414   61  53   124    52.0 %   2400   20.2 %
  4 anmon                        : 2396   54  67   110    49.5 %   2400   22.7 %
  5 lg                           : 2378   59  64   109    46.8 %   2400   18.3 %
  6 amy                          : 2364   63  66    98    44.4 %   2403   19.4 %
  7 tcb                          : 2360   81  75    75    44.0 %   2402   10.7 %
  8 sos                          : 2343   81  76    68    41.2 %   2405   17.6 %

15 min per side......pentiumII 400mhz.
ponder=on
no TB
most recent version of each program that is available.
lg= little goliath 2.9a


I dont know if I am gonna continue this tourny anymore,
but I am interested on a 30min/per side tourny.


Pavel



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