Author: pavel
Date: 20:12:53 09/12/00
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On September 12, 2000 at 17:11:59, Eddie wrote:
>On September 12, 2000 at 16:17:01, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2000 at 15:41:29, Eddie wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>Thx Dann,
>>>
>>>LGoliath winning the Four Crowns Division? Is that vers. 29a ?
>>
>>Crafty v17.11 (Eugene Nalimov compiled)
>>Little Goliath Gold Version 2.8
>>
>>>I'm just
>>>wondering here, cuz Crafty rules over LG here when I match them up ...
>>
>>Crafty has not even played against LG yet. Here are the individual crosstables
>>for those two programs:
>>
>>(1) LGoliath : 24 (+ 14,= 9,- 1), 77.1 %
>>
>>Bringer : 4 (+ 1,= 2,- 1), 50.0 %
>>Francesca : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
>>SOS : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
>>Yace : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
>>ZChess : 4 (+ 4,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
>>Comet : 4 (+ 0,= 4,- 0), 50.0 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Crafty : 24 (+ 10,= 10,- 4), 62.5 %
>>
>>Amy : 4 (+ 0,= 2,- 2), 25.0 %
>>Gromit2 : 4 (+ 2,= 2,- 0), 75.0 %
>>TCBishop : 4 (+ 2,= 2,- 0), 75.0 %
>>Bringer : 4 (+ 2,= 1,- 1), 62.5 %
>>SOS : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
>>Comet : 4 (+ 1,= 2,- 1), 50.0 %
>>
>>>seriously Crafty has no problems with LG on my system .... anyway thanks a lot,
>>>just a bit confused as to these results! :)) Take care ....
>>
>>LG 2.8 at long time controls looks very, very strong so far. As you will notice
>>from my original posting, the ELO error is still huge. We are only 1/2 way done
>>with the 4 crown division, so there could still be large shake-ups in the final
>>standings from what we see now.
>>
>>In a single 4 game match, you can see some very strange results. Look how Amy
>>handed crafty its hat. But if I ran one hundred games, I strongly suspect we
>>would see a different result between those two engines.
>
>Dann,
>
>Thanks for this crosstable update! It's very interesting to see these results.
> I think Crafty is playing like a true gentleman, to allow Amy to have a plus 2
>score, is befuddling <is this a word?> to me ....
>
>Crafty takes this little lady Amy to bed all the time on my system here, the
>little lady, even tho we love her dearly, resigns passionately to Sir Crafty all
>the time! <wink> Like .95% or higher It must just be on my system .....
>
>Anyway, it looks as if the battles will rage on ..... nothing personal here,
>but if Crafty don't win it all I will be very surprised .... thanks again,
>take care .....
if crafty doesnt win I wont be surprise.........
coz I believe the strength differance between crafty and other strong wnboard
engines is probably around 30-40 elo. and at that differance anything can
happen. as you can see the error margin (in this tourny) is reasonably high....
crafty getting smacked by Amy is not a new story,
here is stats for Amy in my tourny..
(6) amy : 98 (+ 34,= 19,- 45), 44.4 %
lg : 18 (+ 6,= 5,- 7), 47.2 %
crafty : 15 (+ 8,= 2,- 5), 60.0 %
tcb : 12 (+ 6,= 1,- 5), 54.2 %
anmon : 12 (+ 4,= 3,- 5), 45.8 %
yace : 20 (+ 3,= 3,- 14), 22.5 %
sos : 10 (+ 4,= 1,- 5), 45.0 %
wbnimzo2000b : 11 (+ 3,= 4,- 4), 45.5 %
I have also seen in other winboard tournaments in winboard firum that crafty
getting smacked my Amy..
Amy is not a bad program at all........its a *very* interesting program IMO.
I wonder if the author is still working on it...
here is the cross table of my tourny..
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 wbnimzo2000b : 2523 60 81 82 68.9 % 2385 23.2 %
2 yace : 2414 69 57 100 52.0 % 2400 24.0 %
3 crafty : 2414 61 53 124 52.0 % 2400 20.2 %
4 anmon : 2396 54 67 110 49.5 % 2400 22.7 %
5 lg : 2378 59 64 109 46.8 % 2400 18.3 %
6 amy : 2364 63 66 98 44.4 % 2403 19.4 %
7 tcb : 2360 81 75 75 44.0 % 2402 10.7 %
8 sos : 2343 81 76 68 41.2 % 2405 17.6 %
15 min per side......pentiumII 400mhz.
ponder=on
no TB
most recent version of each program that is available.
lg= little goliath 2.9a
I dont know if I am gonna continue this tourny anymore,
but I am interested on a 30min/per side tourny.
Pavel
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