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Subject: Re: Genius 6.5 playing strength

Author: Philippe Signoret

Date: 10:51:54 09/13/00

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On September 12, 2000 at 15:06:58, Joachim Denzler wrote:

>I got the impression from reading posts in this forum and other, that Genius 6.5
>is supposed to not belong to the current top commercial programs. I cannot
>verify this since I played only a few games and I am not a chess expert -
>perhaps I even got a wrong impression.
>
>Can someone please point me to results from games of Genius 6.5 against other
>programs (commercial or winboard) at 40/120min time control. In my tournament
>Genius 6.5 does a good job so far (actually ranked 2nd after 6 rounds),
>especially its endgame without tabelbases seems to be very good. Perhaps the
>reason is the small hashtable size (32MB) and ponder off? Do other programs gain
>more strength compared to Genius with increased HTsize and ponder on (I know
>that some programs are worse if ponder is off).
>
>Thanks for any hint on the playing strength!
>
>JoachimI have made several engines matches between genius 6.5 ,6,5,3 in blitz game : all the versions are very close. At tournament level , they are clearly outplayed by newer programs
as Shredder 4 or chessmaster 6k. To my opinion, the best Genius is the version 3
(this defeated Kasparov in 1994) which seems stronger than the latest versions
at 2h/40 moves.
It is confirmed by the chess bit rating : 2609 for genius 3 and only 2550 for
genius 6.5.
I am still comparing the 3 and the 6.5 at 2h/40 moves against chessmaster 6k and
I will post the games when a sufficient number is achieved. I am sure that a 32
bit rewriting of genius 3 without changing anything (exept perhaps the fact that
it often "forgets" to castle) would produce a very good program.
>
>WINCOMMS tourneys: http://members.rpa.net/~jdenzler



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