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Subject: Re: Rebel vs Ferret on ICS

Author: Mark Young

Date: 21:18:29 12/12/97

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On December 11, 1997 at 14:00:29, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On December 11, 1997 at 05:49:33, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 1997 at 12:27:08, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>Beautifull game and some strange move by Rebel
>>>
>>>Klamath is REBEL 9.0 by Ed Scroeder on PentiumII/300 Mhz processor
>>>Ferret is Ferret by Bruce Moreland on Alpha/533 Mhz Processor
>>
>>Are the moves in games like these computer automated or do
>>humans enter the moves?
>>>
>>>[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
>>>[Site "chessclub.com"]
>>>[Date "1997.12.07"]
>>>[Round "-"]
>>>[White "Klamath"]
>>>[Black "Ferret"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2743"]
>>>[BlackElo "2955"]
>>>[TimeControl "120+15"]
>>




I test many programs and i use many setting on them. Rebel may have been
set on far form its stongest setting in this game. Don't remember what I
had rebel set on. I would not put a rating down for rebel under my
account as you did 2743. Remember I test many setting and programs. so i
could jump up to well over 2800 or drop down to 2600.
>>Does this time control mean game/2 minutes with a 15" increment?
>>Does Rebel 9 have this time control?
>>>
>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6
>>>8.
>>>c3 O-O 9. h3 Nb8 10. d4 Nbd7 11. Nh4
>>
>>Is this move,Nh4 part of the Rebel 9 opening book?
>>r1bq1rk1/2pnbppp/p2p1n2/1p2p3/3PP3/1BP2N1P/PP3PP1/RNBQR1K1 w
>
>Not in the tournament book, the operator use probably a bigger book
>
>>
>>>Nxe4 12. Nf5 Nef6 13. Qf3 Nb6 14.
>>>dxe5
>>>dxe5 15. Rxe5 Bxf5 16. Qxf5 c5 17. Bg5 Nbd7 18. Re1 Rc8 19. c4 Re8 20.
>>>Nd2
>>>Rb8 21. Rad1 g6 22. Qf3 Kg7 23. Qf4 Rb6 24. Nf3 Qb8 25. Qxb8 Nxb8 26.
>>>Ne5
>>>Bf8 27. Kh2 h6 28. Bh4 Rbe6 29. f4 g5 30. Bxg5 hxg5 31. cxb5 R6e7 32.
>>>bxa6
>>>Nxa6 33. Bxf7 Rxf7 34. Nxf7 Kxf7 35. fxg5 Ne4 36. Re3 c4 37. Rd7+ Kg6
>>>38.
>>>Rd4 Nac5 39. Rxc4 Re6 40. b4 Nd6 41. Rxe6+ Nxe6 42. Rg4 Nf5 43. b5 Bd6+
>>>44.
>>>g3 Kh5 45. g6 Nxg3 46. b6 Nf5+ 47. Kh1 Kh6 48. a4 Ng3+ 49. Kg2 Nf5 50.
>>>Kf3
>>>Nc5 51. a5 Nd7 52. g7 Nxg7 53. Rd4 Ne8 54. Rxd6+ {ooops}
>>
>>oops indeed!
>>4n3/3n4/1P1b3k/P7/3R4/5K1P/8/8 w
>>Would any Rebel 9 owners care to run this position?
>>When does it play this move and when does it decide to trash it?
>
>I analyzed Rxd6+, on depth 15 : the score is 0.86 for rebel
>and the best line for rebel is 54.Rh4+ Kg6 55.Rg4+ Kh6 56.Rd4 Nb8 57.Re2
>+0.44
>
>Apparently the operator wanted to draw the game, leaving 2 knights to
>black but what a surprise ...
>
>>
>>>Nxd6 55. Kg3
>>>Kh5 56. h4
>>>Nc4 57. Kf3 Nxa5 58. Ke4 Nxb6 {Here (or some moves before) Ferret
>>>announced
>>>mate in 106 !!!}
>>
>>Yikes!
>>
>> 59. Ke5 Nbc4+ 60. Ke6 Nb3 61. Kd7 Nd4 62. Kc8
>>>Nf5 63. Kd7 Nce3 64. Ke6 Kg4 65. h5 Nh6 66. Ke5 Kf3 67. Kf6 Ke4 68. Kg6
>>>Neg4 69. Kg5 Ke5 70. Kg6 Kf4 71. Kh7 Kg5 72. Kg7 Ne5 73. Kh8 Kf6 74. Kh7
>>>Nf5 75. Kg8 Nd7 76. h6 Ne7+ 77. Kh7 Kf7 78. Kh8 Ng6+ 79. Kh7 Nf6#
>>>{Klamath checkmated} 0-1
>>>
>>>(remark : all the moves are reproduceable by Rebel 9.0 :)  )
>>>
>>>
>>>After the first announce of the mate, the distance to mate went to
>>>something like 94,92,91,75,72 and then a sudden jump to 'mate in 7'
>>>Very instructive utilisation of EGTB :)
>>>
>>>Question to Ed : Don't you think it's irritating that an amateur program
>>>beat regulary a professional one ? Is Bruce a Magician ?
>>>
>>>Question to Bruce : Is it possible to get some dozen of your games
>>>against the higher rated players ? (I like this)



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