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Subject: Re: Mchess Pro 7.1

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:05:38 12/13/97

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On December 13, 1997 at 13:50:54, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>
>When do we come to the point that we understand that NOTHING in the
>world is deterministic ?
>Of course we always try to make it deterministic. We like EASY
>statements like: A is better B. Because a short way is faster to follow
>than a long way. Also a short way gives earlier results.
>But - and here I am sure, I can compete ANY competition with an
>autoplayer.
>I will always find out much earlier than any 40/120 autoplayer-system
>HOW STRONG a chess program is.
>I don't need 100 games. Nor 50.
>And if the scientifical approach NEEDS this much games to be precise,
>than the method they use is senseless because it is beaten by another
>method that is much faster and as precise (or even more precise).
>Please, don't get me wrong:
>ANY guy can measure this, if he can feel it.
>it is not me. It is the long time I have done this. I am sure any
>wine-expert is as good in testing wine and does not need machines and
>experiments, I am also sure any mechanician is much better than any
>machine in finding out which car is better....
>
>So, please let me survive now... although I am against your opinion.
>It is christmas time again

I understand what you are trying to say...  IE program A can crush
program
B in a match, but you can look at the games and see that B seems to know
more and play better moves.  My only counter-point would be that if A
that A's moves are worse is likely flawed.  Because I don't believe it
is
possible to play better moves and lose consistently.

My conclusion is that if A beats B by a score of 200 to 100, then A is
simply better, no matter how you feel about its moves.  After all, the
bottom line is winning, not playing "beautiful moves that lose..."



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