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Subject: Re: Deepest chess problem ever composed?

Author: Helmut Conrady

Date: 14:00:03 09/15/00

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On September 15, 2000 at 16:25:14, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 15, 2000 at 15:53:02, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2000 at 09:38:12, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>On September 15, 2000 at 08:18:59, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>>
>>>>Im wondering, what is the deepest chessproblem ever composed. There is a problem
>>>>created by Petrovic in 1969 which might lead to a mate in 270.
>>>>
>>>>[D]8/Bk3p1p/1P3p2/KP2n2p/1P1p4/1Pp2p2/B1P5/7B w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately I haven t got the solution.
>>>>
>>>>Can onyone explain how to win this.
>>>>Does anyone know a deeper problem?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>Helmut
>>>
>>>you are wrong the deepest chess position is indeed the start position and no one
>>>has ever solved it and no one ever will .if anyone can find a deeper problem
>>>show me .
>>
>>You re wrong. I asked Fritz. He told me 1. e4 leads to a mate in 6543 moves
>>while all others draw!
>
>Can you post the main line of Fritz?
>
>mate in 6543 is a draw by the 50 move rule because there are 96 possible pawns
>moves and 30 possible captures.
>There are at most 126 moves that are captures or pawn moves and there are less
>than it because some pawns pushes are captures or some pawns are captured before
>they go to the 8th rank(1st rank).
>
>Even if you assume that there are 126 captures or pawn moves then it is
>impossible to put them in 6543 moves(every move is 2 plies except the last move)
>without getting a draw by the 50 move rules.
>
>Uri

You are right. The longest game according to the 50 move rule is something about
6100. I changed the numbers. Correct is 5643 moves. Sorry. Ashes on my head.
Unfortunately Fritz doesn t give me his main line. He told me he will keep this
record by himmself. :(

Helmut



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