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Subject: Re: Can this position be won under a 50-move rule?

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 18:44:23 09/17/00

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On September 17, 2000 at 15:43:06, guy haworth wrote:

>Thanks for your reply.
>
>Certainly, endgame tables (EGTs) specific to the 50-move rule can be computed by
>recomputing the Distance-to-Conversion tables, marking everything deeper than
>100 plies as a draw.
>
>The objection to this is
>
>  (a) FIDE could change '50' to '45' (unlikely), and
>
>  (b) it is still worth knowing that there a win in 51:  the opponent might be
>fallible.
>
>
>Instead, I proposed, in the ICGA_Journal, a new metric called 'DTR' or "Depth by
>The Rule".  If a position can be won under a k-move rule but not under a
>k-1-move rule, it has DTR = k.
>
>The DTR tables are not as easy to compute as the DTC and DTM ones but they can
>be done.
>

Interesting, too bad I am not a ICCA member. I might become one in the future,
and will definitely look for your papers.

>At the same time, I conjectured that positions might be found in KQP(a5-6)KQ and
>KBBKNN which would demonstrate the need for a DTR table.  It may be that the
>maxDTC/DTM position is one such.
>
>It has DTC = 38 and DTM = 106 ... which is not to say that the KBBKN phase is
>bound to be 68 moves deep.
>
>However, it is clear that White cannot just aim to minimise DTM.  White has to
>'invest' more effort in Phase 1 to reach a shorter Phase 2.  As White has only
>12 spare moves for this, there may not be enough spare time.
>
>Should the maxDTC/DTM KBBKNN position not be a '50-win', there are probably
>KBBKNN positions en route which can be won with DTR but not with DTC/DTM alone.
>
>Why 'Marimer' by the way? :-)
>

It is "Marimar", not "Marimer". It is a Spanish female name that brings me happy
memories (:

>G

José.



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