Author: pavel
Date: 06:29:29 09/18/00
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On September 18, 2000 at 08:43:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On September 18, 2000 at 00:34:03, pavel wrote:
>
>>On September 17, 2000 at 21:22:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 17, 2000 at 21:03:03, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Crafty hasn't been too impressive on ICC lately. Its current blitz
>>>>rating is 2907. Isn't it normally over 3000? Anyone have an explanation?
>>>> James B. Shearer
>>>
>>>
>>>It has been doing the usual against humans. IE humans are doing no better
>>>against it today than they were 3 months ago. The big problem is that there
>>>are lots of computers there that were once manually operated on slow hardware
>>>with low ratings. Now they are automatic on 1ghz+ machines. It will take
>>>a while for the ratings to settle down...
>>
>>I see the same in chess.net
>>though, the playing condition for the one in chess.net is (probably) differant
>>from the one in ICC (I believe thats what you said once).
>>getting badly wacked by fritz, chesstiger, junior on pentium III 1ghz
>>precessors, and those are all automated nowadays.
>>
>>It plays good against human as always..
>>
>>I have a request to Bob, is it possible for you to put all the games played by
>>crafty in ICC (till now) under elostat and give us the output in this forum,
>>or maybe just e-mail me.
>>it shouldnt take more than 1-2 mins. I can do it myself but it will take me
>>hours to download, not to mention huge diskspace......
>>
>>thanks
>>Pavel
>
>
>What is "elostat" and where is it available?
elostat is a program that is used to calculate rating from a list of pgn files.
It 'may' not interest you, but I would love to see the output elo, that it gets
from that HUGE crafty.pgn, also the error margin would be interesting to see...
here is where you can get elostat the latest version
http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach/download/elostat/elostat_11b.zip
here is a typical output from elostat done from the games my accounts used in
ics...
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 FRITZ-X : 2981 0 0 1 100.0 % 2381 0.0 %
2 Bryant : 2981 0 0 3 100.0 % 2381 0.0 %
3 Valheru. : 2981 0 0 3 100.0 % 2381 0.0 %
4 ChessTiger : 2981 0 0 4 100.0 % 2381 0.0 %
5 vipp-computers : 2981 0 0 2 100.0 % 2381 0.0 %
6 crafty : 2766 60 192 56 90.2 % 2381 12.5 %
7 M-W-E : 2692 289 265 7 85.7 % 2381 28.6 %
8 phibs : 2572 226 313 10 75.0 % 2381 10.0 %
9 Lucie. : 2546 86 112 41 72.0 % 2383 26.8 %
10 IronMaiden : 2528 235 175 10 70.0 % 2381 40.0 %
11 BLACKDEMON : 2501 455 266 6 66.7 % 2381 33.3 %
12 slowman : 2475 106 92 34 63.2 % 2381 38.2 %
13 G-N-U : 2417 132 129 29 53.4 % 2393 10.3 %
14 Yaz : 2381 0 0 1 50.0 % 2381 100.0%
15 XtremeChess : 2381 502 502 5 50.0 % 2381 20.0 %
16 Caipirosca : 2381 0 0 1 50.0 % 2381 100.0
17 episcopal : 2381 0 0 1 50.0 % 2381 100.0%
18 Standard : 2374 40 37 272 41.9 % 2431 18.4 %
19 shots : 2190 382 409 2 25.0 % 2381 50.0 %
20 Noelimann : 2101 378 320 3 16.7 % 2381 33.3 %
21 Dr.Sve : 2043 379 262 4 12.5 % 2381 25.0 %
22 blackdeath : 1781 0 0 3 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
23 gev : 1781 0 0 5 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
24 Puchoball : 1781 0 0 4 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
25 MISAMATE : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
26 Statistic : 1781 0 0 6 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
27 scepptor : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
28 Killer2000 : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
29 PBJ : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
30 BATIL5 : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
31 Grafinger : 1781 0 0 8 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
32 GARVIN : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
33 Gerbov : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
34 El-Butre : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
35 ---- : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
36 reini : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
37 Spiddmaster : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
38 Homero : 1781 0 0 3 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
39 Sahanga-Ganga : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
40 Dr.Soft : 1781 0 0 4 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
41 FideFelix : 1781 0 0 1 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
42 littlekarpov : 1781 0 0 2 0.0 % 2381 0.0 %
My handle is "standard"
most of the other are computer accounts in chess.net
I ussually run on a slow notepad nowadays...
here is another form of output
(18) Standard : 272 (+ 89,= 50,-133), 41.9 %
slowman : 34 (+ 6,= 13,- 15), 36.8 %
FRITZ-X : 1 (+ 0,= 0,- 1), 0.0 %
blackdeath : 3 (+ 3,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
gev : 5 (+ 5,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Puchoball : 4 (+ 4,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
MISAMATE : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Lucie. : 39 (+ 6,= 11,- 22), 29.5 %
Noelimann : 3 (+ 2,= 1,- 0), 83.3 %
Dr.Sve : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
Statistic : 6 (+ 6,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Bryant : 3 (+ 0,= 0,- 3), 0.0 %
shots : 2 (+ 1,= 1,- 0), 75.0 %
Yaz : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
scepptor : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Killer2000 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Valheru. : 3 (+ 0,= 0,- 3), 0.0 %
G-N-U : 27 (+ 10,= 3,- 14), 42.6 %
PBJ : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
XtremeChess : 5 (+ 2,= 1,- 2), 50.0 %
M-W-E : 7 (+ 0,= 2,- 5), 14.3 %
BATIL5 : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
crafty : 56 (+ 2,= 7,- 47), 9.8 %
Grafinger : 8 (+ 8,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
GARVIN : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
ChessTiger : 4 (+ 0,= 0,- 4), 0.0 %
BLACKDEMON : 6 (+ 1,= 2,- 3), 33.3 %
vipp-computers : 2 (+ 0,= 0,- 2), 0.0 %
Gerbov : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
IronMaiden : 10 (+ 1,= 4,- 5), 30.0 %
El-Butre : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
phibs : 10 (+ 2,= 1,- 7), 25.0 %
---- : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
reini : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Caipirosca : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
Spiddmaster : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Homero : 3 (+ 3,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Sahanga-Ganga : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
episcopal : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
Dr.Soft : 4 (+ 4,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
FideFelix : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
littlekarpov : 2 (+ 2,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
It out be interesting to see the output from crafty.pgn, with soooo many games.
thanks
pavel
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