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Subject: Re: The New SSDF List Accurate?

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 21:59:37 09/19/00

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There is no correlation between a Humans Elo rating and a Computers elo rating

Fritz on a 500Mhz machine got 2 different performances one of 2393  far cry from
your 2500 claim and a 2550 one in another tournament 2457 for average maybe it's
a definite 2500+ player on a 1 Ghz machine but i am trying to figure that out
for myself. What depth on most comercial programs do you need to avoid loss
against a 2500 player ofcourse every position will be different and
scientifically 2 games aren't enough but look at the weil and wely games from
the dutch championships ....... i couldn't find the exact point where black is
lost according to LG2000 v 2.9a , Ikarus , or Hiarcs 7.32...... Programs need
17ply to play really well  example LG2000 took 16 or 17 ply to find that DJ6 was
in rough shape at around move 18.....  Hiarcs would never reach that depth
without pruning and not without a 200Ghz processor.





      + 62.11 Average per Doubling

1 Fritz 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2631   28   -27   673   67%  2504 2623
      2393 ISR2000, 2550 Jakarta, 2456.53 counting the two 15 Games 2670 LCT2
800Mhz
2 Junior 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2601   25   -24   864   67%  2478 2597
         2550 LCT2 800Mhz
3 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2573   30   -29   569   63%  2481 2572
 2675 LCT2 800Mhz
5 Fritz 5.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2553   31   -30   557   62%  2467 2551
         2535 LCT2 800Mhz
6 Nimzo 7.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2549   29   -28   613   62%  2463 2547
    2695 LCT2 800Mhz
7 Goliath Light  128MB K6-2 450 MHz       2534   48   -48   210   51%  2528 2535
 LGoliath 2.8 2630 LCT2 800Mhz
8 Hiarcs 7.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz         2533   31   -31   519   60%  2460 2530
  2670 LCT2 Athlon 800 @ 880Mhz
9 Junior 5.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2526   29   -28   598   58%  2467 2523
10 SOS  128MB  K6-2 450 MHz                2516   57   -55   159   58%  2456
2512       2555 LCT2 800Mhz
11 Nimzo 99  128MB K6-2 450 MHz            2501   29   -29   581   54%  2475
2503       2675 LCT2 800Mhz
12 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz      2499   27   -27   651   51%  2496
2503  Crafty 17.10 2550 LCT2 800Mhz
15 205  128MB  K6-2 450 MHz                2473   32   -32   477   49%  2479
2472
17 MChess Pro 8.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz      2470   34   -35   418   44%  2511
2469

                            + 76.25 for K6-2 450
13 Fritz 5.32  64MB P200 MMX    2477   20   -20  1208   57%  2429 2478
  +76 for K6-2 450Mhz    2535 LCT2 800Mhz
13 Hiarcs 7.32  64MB P200 MMX  2477   25   -24   815   60%  2404 2474
 +56 for K6-2 450Mhz
15 Chessmaster 6000  64MB P200 MMX  2473   61   -53   184   76%  2278 2460
2553.57 P2-450Mhz 4th Copa 2645 LCT2 800Mhz
18 Fritz 5.0 PB29%  67MB P200 MMX  2459   23   -22  1005   66%  2342 2454
19 Hiarcs 7.0  64MB P200 MMX  2458   21   -21  1106   55%  2420 2455
20 Nimzo 99  64MB P200 MMX   2447   23   -23   885   51%  2439 2446
2675 LCT2 800Mhz
21 Junior 5.0  64MB P200 MMX  2433   22   -22  1010   51%  2427 2434
 +93 for K6-2 450Mhz
22 Nimzo 98  58MB P200 MMX   2423   22   -22  1038   58%  2367 2423
2675 LCT2 800Mhz
23 Rebel 9.0  47MB P200 MMX  2419   24   -23   900   61%  2340 2417
24 Hiarcs 6.0  49MB P200 MMX  2417   24   -24   829   56%  2373 2415
2588.75 hergott + Karlsson Matches  2640 LCT2 800Mhz
24 190  64MB P200 MMX             2417   23   -23   943   55%  2384 2419
26 Rebel 8.0  51MB P200 MMX    2409   23   -23   887   50%  2408 2408       2650
LCT2 800Mhz
27 194  64MB P200 MMX             2408   27   -27   669   43%  2457 2408
28 MChess Pro 6.0  41MB P200 MMX   2407   26   -25   749   54%  2378 2406
29 Shredder 2.0  58MB P200 MMX        2396   21   -21  1054   48%  2408 2394
2600 LCT2 800Mhz
30 MChess Pro 7.1  46MB P200 MMX  2394   22   -22  1042   53%  2371 2392    2610
LCT2 800Mhz
31 Genius 5.0 DOS  46MB P200 MMX  2393   21   -21  1093   52%  2378 2392
2570 LCT2 800Mhz
32 MChess Pro 8.0  64MB P200 MMX  2390   27   -27   681   53%  2366 2387
+80 for K6-2 450Mhz
34 Gandalf 3.0  64MB P200 MMX              2364   41   -40   307   59%  2296
2359
35 193  64MB P200 MMX                      2354   31   -32   507   36%  2456
2358
36 Kallisto II  64MB P200 MMX              2342   35   -35   403   52%  2327
2341
60 CometA90  64MB P200 MMX                 2251   37   -39   358   36%  2351
61 192  64MB P200 MMX                      2248   44   -46   248   41%  2316

    +80.8 for 200Mhz
33 Chess Tiger 11.8  Pentium 90 MHz        2387   45   -45   242   52%  2375
2389  +186 for CT 12.0 K6-2 450
37 Rebel 8.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2337   18   -18  1435   55%  2302
2337      +72 for 200Mhz
38 Rebel 9.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2334   23   -23   890   47%  2356
2335       +85 for 200Mhz
39 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2332   18   -18  1437   51%  2328
2335      +85 for 200Mhz
40 Genius 5.0 DOS Pentium 90 MHz     2329   18   -18  1558   47%  2348 2327
+64 for 200Mhz
41 Hiarcs 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2326   38   -36   363   59%  2261
42 MChess Pro 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2309   17   -17  1726   45%  2343
    +98 for 200Mhz
43 Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2308   26   -25   785   61%  2228
44 MChess Pro 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2306   26   -25   769   63%  2214
44 Rebel 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2306   31   -30   540   60%  2234
46 Genius 4.0 DOS Pentium 90 MHz           2303   23   -23   944   60%  2234
47 Rebel 7.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2301   26   -25   759   61%  2218
48 Nimzo 3.5 Pentium 90 MHz                2293   22   -22   998   46%  2322
49 Hiarcs 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2291   25   -25   766   55%  2257
50 Chessmaster 5000 Pentium 90 MHz         2287   49   -45   240   67%  2162
50 Junior 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2287   22   -22  1035   42%  2341
52 Shredder 1.0 Pentium 90 MHz             2282   59   -58   145   53%  2262
53 Nimzo 3.0  Pentium 90 MHz               2279   26   -25   767   58%  2220
 2445 LCT2 600Mhz   +166
55 Hiarcs 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2273   30   -30   545   56%  2228
57 Junior 3.3-3.5  Pentium 90 MHz          2257   31   -31   516   47%  2276
59 MChess Pro 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2254   29   -29   578   52%  2238
62 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2240   18   -19  1438   42%  2297
64 Fritz 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2234   40   -39   324   60%  2163
65 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz              2230   20   -20  1222   39%  2308
67 Kallisto 1.98 Pentium 90 MHz            2225   21   -22  1049   42%  2283
78 Rebel Decade Pentium 90 MHz             2175   29   -30   563   45%  2212
2177
94 Comet32 Pentium 90 MHz                  2100   24   -25   991   24%  2304
122 Gandalf 2.1 Pentium 90 MHz              1937   46   -51   242   27%  2112

                                              +62.5 to Pentium 90Mhz
56 Genius 4.0 DOS 486/50-66 MHz            2265   23   -23   900   49%  2269
+38 to Pentium 90Mhz
58 Genius 3.0 486/50-66 MHz                2255   24   -23   910   62%  2168
    +53  to Pentium 90Mhz
63 Mephisto Genius 2.0  486/50-66 MHz      2235   23   -23   917   58%  2176
66 MChess Pro 5.0 486/50-66 MHz            2227   26   -26   691   50%  2229
    +79 to Pentium 90Mhz
67 Rebel 7.0 486/50-66 MHz                 2225   25   -25   757   49%  2235
76
69 MChess Pro 4.0 486/50-66 MHz            2209   24   -24   846   53%  2185
    +45 to Pentium 90Mhz
71 WChess 1.03 486/50-66 MHz               2198   27   -27   677   49%  2204
73 Rebel 6.0 486/50-66 MHz                 2196   24   -23   887   55%  2162
73 Hiarcs 3.0 486/50-66 MHz                2196   24   -24   865   50%  2193
           +77 to Pentium 90Mhz
76 Chessmaster 4000 486/50-66 MHz          2191   34   -33   462   66%  2071
77 Chess Genius 1.0  486/50-66 MHz         2182   23   -23   931   54%  2154
       2490 LCT2 600Mhz
80 Mephisto Gideon Pro  486/50-66 MHz      2171   35   -34   421   62%  2083
81 MChess Pro 3.5  486/50-66 MHz           2167   23   -22   958   51%  2159
   2565 LCT2 800Mhz
82 MChess Pro 3.12  486/50-66 MHz          2165   36   -34   438   69%  2022
83 Fritz 3.0 486/50-66 MHz                 2157   20   -20  1226   45%  2190
       +83 to Pentium 90Mhz
92 Kallisto 1.82-1.83 486/50-66 MHz        2110   21   -22  1077   41%  2172

                                   +40.5 to 486/50-66Mhz
85 Chess Genius 1.0  486/33 MHz            2140   32   -32   463   50%  2140
  +42 to 486/50-66Mhz 2490 LCT2 600Mhz
88 MChess Pro 3.12  486/33 MHz             2126   50   -48   208   60%  2052
 +39 to 486/50-66Mhz
95 Hiarcs Master 2.0  486/33 MHz           2099   46   -46   229   51%  2090
97 MChess 1.1-1.71  486/33 MHz             2093   44   -40   326   74%  1915
2485 LCT2 600Mhz
104 Socrates 3.0  486/33 MHz                2039   49   -50   203   47%  2060
105 Fritz 2.0  486/33 MHz                   2029   30   -31   527   45%  2063
118 Hiarcs Master 1.0  486/33 MHz           1970   48   -48   214   48%  1986
121 Fritz 1.0  486/33 MHz                   1941   48   -47   215   55%  1908
124 Nimzo 2.2.1 486/33 MHz                  1934   46   -47   229   42%  1988
126 Zarkov 3.0 486/25-33 MHz                1929   46   -48   232   39%  2008
135 Complete Chess System  486/33 MHz       1884   47   -47   221   47%  1906
1885

                                +50.5  to 486/33Mhz
107 M Chess 1.1-1.71 386/25-33 MHz          2026   36   -35   408   65%  1917
 +67 to 486/33Mhz
126 Rex Chess 2.3  386/25-33 MHz            1929   65   -62   126   59%  1864
129 Zarkov 2.5  386/25-33 MHz               1920   56   -53   168   61%  1841
132 Fritz 1.0  386/25-33 MHz                1907   66   -67   113   46%  1939
+34 to 486/33Mhz
142 Zarkov 2.6 386/25-33 MHz                1860   64   -62   125   56%  1817
145 Chessmaster 3000  386/25-33 MHz         1833   68   -74   103   36%  1931
146 Rex Chess 2.3  386/16-20 MHz            1830   53   -53   174   49%  1836



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