Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:06:20 09/20/00
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On September 20, 2000 at 01:24:30, Jouni Uski wrote: >On September 19, 2000 at 10:22:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 18, 2000 at 17:42:06, odell hall wrote: >> >>>Hello CCC >>> >>> >>> How many think the new SSDF List is relatively Accurate? Personally I commend >>>SSDF for doing a outstanding Job, Based on my observations of the grandmaster >>>Challenge and other 40/2 events, I think the list is very reliable. >>>I believe it is safe to say that any top program running on a K62-450 is 2500 >>>elo, or very near. I think that now that the rating has been significantly >>>lowered, this list will be taken far more seriously in determining Fide rating >>>for Modern Programs. I am curious if some skeptics of the List in the Past, >>>consider the list still to high, or Just about right? Opinions Welcome >> >> >>For anyone that understands the statistics in the Elo system, the correction >>makes zero sense. There is no way to take two totally different rating pools, >>and adjust one set of ratings to make them comparable to the others. As has >>been pointed out so many times here, the _difference_ between two ratings is >>the _important_ piece of data. Not the raw ratings themselves. All this >>correction does is attempt to correct highly over-rated numbers on the SSDF >>list. Adjusting _all_ ratings on their list changes _nothing_ of course. And >>it still doesn't mean that their ratings have anything to do with FIDE ratings, >>other than the top programs are now a bit closer to "reality ratings"... > >But are You still claiming programs are NOT at GM level? >In reality they 100% sure are. > >Jouni 100% sure based on what? 100% opinion? The crux is this: If a GM plays "normal chess" vs a computer, then the computer will do OK. It will _not_ run the GM off the board, but the computer will certaily play and produce results as if it were a GM. If a GM plays "anti-computer chess" then this changes. And the machines will, in general, look silly. They will fall into silly draws. They will fall into silly losses. They will still win a few. But they won't be confused with a GM in any way. My answer is still "no". They are pretty close, yes. But close only counts in hand grenades and horse shoes. Not chess.
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