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Subject: Re: Side effects of lazy eval?

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 09:29:35 09/28/00

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On September 28, 2000 at 12:02:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 28, 2000 at 11:41:50, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On September 28, 2000 at 05:00:59, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>
>>>On September 27, 2000 at 16:16:21, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 27, 2000 at 07:47:18, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Supposing no "lazy-errors" at all were made, does anyone know if there are
>>>>>serious side-effects to lazy eval?
>>>>
>>>>You can't get the full benefits of fail-soft using lazy eval.
>>>
>>>I agree. This is the only factor I can think off too, you lose some bound info.
>>>
>>>Yet, I ran a couple of WAC tests at very short time controls, with and without
>>>LE. And kept track of the average depth that was reached. In that quick test
>>>NPS went up, but the average depth stayed the same!
>>>
>>>So it seems what you win in speed, you lose in bound info, net result zero? At
>>>least in this case. I will rerun it more accurately, at longer tc.
>>
>>You might want to give the following idea a try. I think this could be called a
>>fail soft version of lazy eval:
>
>I heart someone mention this trick before a couple of years ago,
>but when i measured the largest eval score i had so far during the
>search the trick looked a bit silly
>
>>    es = s + largest_evalscore[side];
>
>So that's roughly (can be a bit more or less):

Sorry, I was too sloppy. s is the material score and largest_evalscore
is the largest positional score found so far.

With this, would you still think, this gives worse bounds?

-- Dieter




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