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Subject: Re: Fritz5

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 10:43:57 12/19/97

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On December 19, 1997 at 13:09:34, Komputer Korner wrote:

>Fritz 5 is a playing program with medium database capability and
>excellent chesstree/opening book editor capability. If Frans Morsch has
>put in a lot of Intel specific assembly language code then AMD owners
>beware, but I find it hard to believe that there is much difference in
>the assembly language instructions. It would be interesting to see the
>differences in a test between the 2 types of machines running Fritz 5.
>
>On December 19, 1997 at 06:14:56, Peter Herttrich wrote:
>
>>On December 18, 1997 at 15:41:07, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Of course he's running Fritz on an AMD K6
>>>>processor which is the worst available environment for Fritz you can
>>>>imagine (Pentium MMX should be about 75 percent faster for Fritz).
>>>
>>>Bullshit ! And also not my problem. If they tune on Intel CPU, is that a
>>>problem of a customer who buys a software of the year 1997 ?
>>>Maybe you should tell the people WHEN you call it a software of the year
>>>1997
>>>not to buy 200,- DM Fritz5 but also 200 ,- DM for RAM and another 500,-
>>>DM to get an INTEL instead of AMD.
>>>The AMD CPU works perfectly well for computerchess as all other
>>>benchmarking with all my other programs has shown. I have no fault when
>>>Frans tunes assembler on INTEL chip ! Is it my problem when ChessBase
>>>AND Morsch gave their best to castrate their SOFTWARE of the YEAR 1997
>>>that much ??
>>
>>Did I understand right? FRITZ5 is playing weaker/slower at an AMK/K6
>>then on a Pentium/MMX with the same Clock-Frequency???
>>
>>If this is the case, forget the program.
>>By the way (I use FRITZ4.01), is FRITZ5 an engine with some database
>>or a DATABASE with some engine?
>>
>>
>>Peter


As I mentioned in a post yesterday, I have a K6/233 (so if it's a matter
of processor type then I only have an edge in speed) but seem incapable
of reproducing Thorsten's results. I ran the 37th, then the 38th, and
finally the 39th moves where he screams murder and at no time does Fritz
5 choose those moves. They ARE it's second choice, but most certainly
not it's first. In all 3 instances it in fact chose Kf7. I played around
with the hash tables (as someone mentioned that the eval changed
according to the amount of hash tables) but acquired very consistent
results (with the exception of how long it took to find them). Could
someone tell me what's up?

Albert



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