Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:09:55 09/29/00
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On September 29, 2000 at 21:56:16, pavel wrote:
>On September 29, 2000 at 17:58:52, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On September 29, 2000 at 12:19:45, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On September 29, 2000 at 11:41:21, Jorge wrote:
>>>
>>>>Incidently, where is Shredder5 beta results to date? I haven't seen a post about
>>>>Shredder5 since it won the computer tournament..just eager to find some info on
>>>>Shredder.
>>>
>>>I believe the shredder team (includes beta tester) likes to keep their testings
>>>secret. I think there is nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>>for instance you wont expect enrique to give the results of chesstigerII testing
>>>to the shredder team and vise versa.
>>
>>
>>
>>Wrong. The results of Rebel-Tiger II beta are being posted daily on this message
>>board. Everybody can read them. There is even a game posted by a totally new and
>>experimental version (it is not even in beta test yet) that has just been posted
>>today.
>>
>>We have a rather "open" beta testing policy. I hope it will not backfire and
>>that the chess fans appreciate this.
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>I wasnt talking about a few interesting games...
>Would you like if any of your beta-tester give the results of every single games
>played by tiger-beta, and also its weakness and strength to your competitor?
>If thats the case, then there is no point of beta-testing. It certainly will
>backfire.
>If you check, you will see that all the games that are being posted are the
>games that are either wins for tiger-beta or they are interesting games.
>how many loosing bad games by tiger-beta were posted?
>Its really hard for me to believe that tiger hardly looses. :)
>
>The point is that the criticle information by the beta-testers are always
>secret.
>Some programs (shredder) goes a little farther.... its hardly give out any
>information...
>
>by the way, I really appreciate for the games that are being posted.
>
>Pavel
Some beta testers have posted the results of several matches, and in these
results Tiger's losses have not been stripped out.
So nobody tells that Tiger never loses.
As for the strength and weaknesses, tell me: Fritz6 has been released several
months ago. Now can somebody please point me the strengths and weaknesses of
this program, so I can beat it easily? While you are at it, can you point me the
strengths and weaknesses of Junior6, so I can take advantage of this knowledge?
Don't waste your time: it's useless. Nobody can express the strengths and
weaknesses of a program (especially one that you got only 2 weeks ago) in such a
way that a smart programmer will use this information. If the programmer is
smart enough, he'd better work on his program independently and improve it, not
spending time trying to exploit weaknesses that will disappear in the next
version or update of the opponent.
So our beta testers can tell anything they want about the weaknesses of the new
Tiger, it won't help the competition, don't worry.
I think the beta testers try to feel what the differences between the previous
and the new version are, and they tell you about what they have seen.
So far they have rather good results. In this case the natural tendency is to
post won games... :)
Christophe
>>>By the way did you see any beta test games by fritz (5,6 or 7) too?
>>>LOL
>>>
>>>coincidence? no.
>>>but thats what you call beta-testing,
>>>
>>>esp. when you have hardcore competitors out there..
>>>
>>>Pavel
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