Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 13:58:31 12/19/97
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>Relax Thorsten, I'm not attacking your integrity here, nor am I >supporting Moritz's conspiracy theory. I am relaxed. in the moment game 2 is done. I am using WIN3.11 on the k6/200 Fritz5 is using. BTW: please - I know Moritz for a while. I hope nobody of you believes that we are enemies. I like Moritz and we know us from testing Fritz5-beta and CSTal. Moritz is a nice guy. So if some of YOU have the impression we are killing us, than you have to reconsider that - as we say in germany - nothing will be eaten so hot the way it was cooked (nichts wird so heiss gegessen, wie es gekocht wird). Moritz is, from my point of view very scientific and precise and a real hardware freak. Also he likes Fritz5. I am no hardware freak. I USE the machines. But I don't have to have always the best/fastest. I like CStal but also many other programs. I do not especially like Fritz5. The program is very good but the propaganda done by CSS and ChessBase produces in me a kind of ANTI-FRITZ feeling. I can - on the other hand - live very good with Matthias Wuellenwebers way of handling the fritz matter. But Matthias is not ChessBase at all. They have their supporters all over. Nothing against supporting something. I do the same with Virtual or Shredder or Hiarcs or - CSTal. BUT: when the amount of support is in no relation to the quality of the product, and from my point of view this case is Fritz5, I am fighting with these suuporters BECAUSE they support very extreme to my point of view. So - I know Moritz from email and I do also know others from email or private life. I think knowing this, is important to find out how serious some threads are meant. >All I said was that I can't >reproduce your results, which is true, and was wondering if your results >might not be due to a change in the setup. No change. If you show me a way to EXPORT the search/Eval/computing-time info into the PGN without having ChessBase, I would do so. Again, Shall I email you my .cbv file ?? > I also have Fritz 5, but when >i ran the moves through it to the depth you played I got different >results. Fritz5 is printing the depth AFTER the move when you allow him to do so. He saves evals/depth AND computing time. > As a matter of fact, the moves on the 37th, 38th, and 39th >moves always showed up but as Fritz's second best choice. If you could >send me the times at least of CSTAL (which I don't have) I'll see what I >get and we can compare. I can email you my compressed chess-base-file with ALL computing-times AND evals/search-depth. But whats your email ??` > As for the difference in hash tables, again I >don't understand why someone claimed the hash table size could change >the eval, first because this seems to be completely illogical, and >second because I get consistent results in evals no matter what the hash >table size. We (moritz has told me , and I increased my RAM with some chips Moritz was so kind to send me. Than I was able to proof that fritz increases in playing strength. After this experiment I sent the RAM-chips back to him, of course.) have found out that Fritz plays stronger with OPTIMAL hashtables. This should be >= 50 MB HASH-Tables.
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