Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 14:17:05 12/19/97
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>- you know my results (60% vs. Rebel 9 in a 40 game match 40/120, 65% in >my play the game position etc. etc.). I have found out that Rebel9 HAS problems with Fritz4 and also with Nimzo3.5 when i tested Rebel8. This is a long time ago. I told Ed about (I think so. He said he cannot proof this. His results against them are normal.) Now you proof the same with a higher Fritz5 and a higher Rebel version. This looks very normal to me too. But is does not proof that Fritz is a s strong as Rebel. It only proofs that Rebel8 had problems with fast-searchers like Fritz4 and Nimzo3.5 and maybe still Rebel9 with Fritz5 and Nimzo98 ! I hope this time Ed can reproduce my results better because YOU have the same results here ! > >This made me wonder if Fritz, the target of your campaign, was the true >reason for your negative feelings. Target ! Campaign ! Your words Moritz. Your words ! It is not war ! And I am not fighting it. Chess is a war game. But I relax while doing it. For me losing or winning is less important than HOW the games were played. >I simply don't get how you can so >easily discard tons of games (must be well over 100 played games), >including Fritz annotations and timings. BTW: I have verified your moves >37-39 with the commercially available Fritz and can confirm its bad >evaluations in this game. Fritz 5.01 plays Kf7 all the time :-) AHA !! Don't you think that it is a little unfair to tell the customers about 60 % and marvellous results and whatever, and on the other hand YOUR results were produced with a totally different engine ?? Sofware of the year ! And the customers get the "rubbish" software ? I do not discard tons of games easily. Don told me that I am biased and that he thinks I would not be able to do a scientific experiment without influencing it negatively. I take this as an insult. But it does not hurt me because I like Don. Why do you think I am doing a personal vendetta or campaign ? I would post the same thing when CSTAL would have played this, or Shredder2. Don't you see that this is nothing to be hurted much, it was a game to replay, to consider about. Not an insult against ChessBase. When I start a campaign I do it different. believe me. > >> >>> >>>Don't you think you're being just a teeny weeny bit unfair here? >> >>Of course I am unfair ! > >So why do you wonder if we complain? I wonder why you tell me that your results are better, but you are not using the commercial version ! Thousand of customers use MY commercial version ! Don't you think it is unfair to them to claim that Fritz5 is strong, although THEIR version will not behave the way YOUR version does ? In the original answer of me I told Bob in detail why it was NOT unfair to put Fritz5 on a k6, why it was not unfair to use the commerical version, not unfair to use a normal amount of hash. Nobody chose the setup the way that fritz has to fail. There was NO arrangement. I can let Shredder2, Virtual2, CM5000 or other WIN-programs play against CSTal and again I have no idea why I should arrange anything.
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