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Subject: Re: Fritz5

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:06:06 12/19/97

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>Hi Thorsten,
>
>I see that you have a K6 with limited memory so it was not possible
>for you to test any other way.  But I do think it's more fair to test
>each program on the platform it runs best on.  My new program completely
>sucks on a Pentium of any kind so I never test on a Pentium and I
>would consider a pentium test very unfair.  Also my program runs very
>fast and therefore needs larger hash tables.  I would consider a test
>with tiny hashtables unfair too.   But if I tested your program vs
>mine using an emulator for your program on the Alpha, it would hardly
>be fair for me to say, "Is it my fault his program is less strong on
>my Alpha's?"

Fair to use same machines ?
You would prefer each program shall use the platform it runs best ?
Hm.
I am a PC-user with limited money for my hobby.
I buy ANY chess-software. Almost any.
And I like to have an autoplayer-system of 2 machines with the same
speed.
Please : I do not have A program ! I like special programs. I always
liked e.g. Socrates although I was never paid or infiltrated by you and
also no Frederic Friedel was the reason I likes SOCRATES.
I bought Rexchess because it was the first serious effort of a strong
PC-program. Later I bought Mchess. In those times I had a 286-16 Mhz.
If i would have enough money, I would buy each machine a BEST platform
or guaranty best hardware.
THIS IS MY HOBBY, not my profession. I want to have fun and not duties !

>This may sound like a silly example to you but keep in mind that the
>Pentium is FAR more common than your platform.  You cannot pick out a
>platform and then criticize every program that doesn't run well under
>it.

ONE program runs weak on it. ALL OTHER run perfectly well.
You turn the thing into
k6 is the problem. It is not the k6, it is the fact that Fritz is tuned
on INTEL.
Fritz is the problem. Not the k6.


>But from now on I want to focus my discussions and energies on
>algorthims, problems sets and such.  If you want to respond to this
>note I'll be glad to read your response but let's close this discussion
>soon ok?   A whole lot of this is grey area semantics anyway.

This discussion is pure nonsense. Because I don't want to post this game
to get this discussion. I posted the game to give an example what my
problem is !
I have heard Moritz was able to reproduce my fritz moves with his
machine too.
He now claims the ENGINE is the reason, and that he uses not fritz5.0
but fritz5.01.

You are right. This discussion is semantics.
It was not my target to push you into a combat and to eat your energy.
When I watch a game and see a strange thing into it, i comment it and
say: what's this there ? Why is this happening ??

If this happens in a game of another chess program I would ask he same
questions. As I said: Fritz is the only WIN chess program in the moment
that needs this massive hash.
Other programs don't hit the ram this often in time.
I want to apologize if I have stressed your nerves or energy too much.
I don't take Moritz as an idiot. I like him.
But I am not always his opinion. For me a friendship makes it possible
to be different opinion without breaking it.
Is this a new idea ??




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